5 Palys? 4 Arms/Fury warriors and a Holy Paly? dumb idea or hmm...

[Eteocles]

Zruam chill the haiku one was a joke :P And what, my posts saying it was alot of micromanagement and totally up to you and what you like didn't count as a direct response? We can give you opinions sure but we're not playing for you, only you know what's fun to you Some people LOVE micromanagement like that. I love min/maxing everything(mostly the planning part, not the execution); I Also love arguing but that's another thread

[voodoogriff]

While it would be alot of Micromanagement, if you're that kind of person (like I tend to be sometimes) a Prot Pally, Retx3, Resto Shaman (mmmmm WF SPAM) would be dead sexy

[Khazrael]

While WF sounds good, I believe most of a ret pally's damage actually comes from spell damage, not white hits does it not? Would wrath of air not be a better option? You could even make them a semi-holy spec to try and max out your spell damage for some mad holy dmg.

[Shaitan256]

It comes From strength and this stuff... Thats why SotC is based on Wpn Dmg

[ImaHealer]

my posts saying it was alot of micromanagement and totally up to you and what you like didn't count as a direct response?

Eteocles: umm oops sorry you have been very helpful, and even attempting to defuse some of the exocentric encounters :-) Thank you.

I have been working at finding what I like to play MB wise
I like, in the solo relm, the Holy Paly for Raiding and the
Combat Swords Rogue for PvE...

having done the multi account with 2 computer thing for a
long time, this having 5 accounts is so new I have yet to find
exactly what I like...

so each attempt "lucky I have enough open spaces toon wise to
experiment with" at a different group is enlightening in a
different way with each group.

even this thread has been so very informative I can't wait to
get back to experimenting.

[voodoogriff]

While WF sounds good, I believe most of a ret pally's damage actually comes from spell damage, not white hits does it not? Would wrath of air not be a better option? You could even make them a semi-holy spec to try and max out your spell damage for some mad holy dmg.

Actually a vast majority of Ret Paladin Damage comes from White Melee (lol my brother and fiancee both have Ret Paladin mains). The next highest is Crusader Strike (still considered melee but due to being instant has no effect on WF) and then Judgement and Seal of Command. Wrath of Air would, however, assist the tank in aggro (which he might need with 3 ret paladins throwing WF around) in which case you could turn to Totem Twisting.

[Shaitan256]

The tank gets the WF as well. , ok it's not a huge buff like with a 2handed wpn, but it counts, and with Revenge(?)(extra weapon swing talent) is also nice, and Both can be on the Same attack, wich means for this attack tripple aggro.

[voodoogriff]

The tank gets the WF as well. , ok it's not a huge buff like with a 2handed wpn, but it counts, and with Revenge(?)(extra weapon swing talent) is also nice, and Both can be on the Same attack, wich means for this attack tripple aggro.

And if you add in a seal it's even better, it's really cool seeing WF + Reckoning and SoR proc is hot

[Shaitan256]

Yeah, Seal of light too I'm in SM right no with my first PvE crew and it's more than hot, maybe I need only a Renew and may Priest is going unemployed , It's more than awesome and with consecration you'll get enough aggro.

[Shaitan256]

WF don't has a hidden Cooldown, has A ppm hasn't it? Because it proccs quite often right after another. A cooldown is something for me like, can't procc in a duration of X secs after the other.

I guess it's better for Warrior for threat generation, because it's fire dmg, and is don't Improved with Righteous Fury. It's normal Firedmg ... and not enough to hold anything at your tank, maybe if you only have a Tank (as melee) , and for Short fights yes, but in long fights I guess WF is the better choice.