Botter Banstick (i.e. Don't Multi-Bot!)

[Eteocles]

Aye that's the awesome part...Vyn mentioned it in IRC, when that new shaman that stole her spot showed up, he had little reputation, he hadn't even SEEN Argent Dawn or Booty Bay AT ALL, she thought his rep looked funny...Booty Bay is semi-understandable if you skipped STV on a pvp server but lvling in the 50s without doing at least some plaguelands quests is for masochists and bots :P Especially the joke-easy turn-ins at EPL + you'd eventually want a Scholo key since it's the easiest and most lucrative pre-bc dungeon to farm.

I'm quite happy with this banwave so far...I do hope it continues, good to see something done about 'em for once, fewer people around who didn't earn their keep :P

[Vyndree]

To the title of the thread: How about just don't bot at all? :P The title bugs me. xD

The title was originally just "Botter Banstick", since that's essentially what it is. I added the stuff to the side to disambiguate (for our general forum troll lurkers) the difference between Multi-BOXing and Mutli-BOTting.

[Vyndree]

Vyn mentioned it in IRC, when that new shaman that stole her spot showed up, he had little reputation, he hadn't even SEEN Argent Dawn or Booty Bay AT ALL, she thought his rep looked funny...Booty Bay is semi-understandable if you skipped STV on a pvp server but lvling in the 50s without doing at least some plaguelands quests is for masochists and bots :P Especially the joke-easy turn-ins at EPL + you'd eventually want a Scholo key since it's the easiest and most lucrative pre-bc dungeon to farm.

Yea, we had pointed that out to the guild. It's certainly possible to "boost" a character to 70, so I had no proof of wrongdoing. But I did warn them just about a month ago that his rep looked really odd.

Pretty much everyone has at least SEEN booty bay/argent dawn at some point for the rep to even SHOW UP as "zero" on your char sheet. Most of the old world rep on his shaman weren't even showing up as zero -- meaning he never so much as talked to a NPC of that faction.

I suppose now that he's banned it's appropriate to link his armory. Ended his raid career with 4 piece t6. Looks like he finally visited booty bay and grinded out some AD rep (most likely to attune for guild Naxx runs -- they've been trying to do this before WotLK comes out)

Botted Shaman:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-r...nde&n=Shokbert
Compare to my solo-leveled shammy (leveled pre-multiboxing):
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-r...monde&n=Velani

Take a look at the "Other" reputation list. Even though some of my rep is low to none, it still SHOWS UP on the sheet.

[Tonuss]

Now if you want some real fun, go browse the Glider forums, and MMowned, the home of the WoW hackers and exploiters. Take a long hot shower afterwards. My, SUCH nerd cheater rage!

I was reading those yesterday, they are hilarious. "Thanks Blizz, that's what I needed to get away from your awful game!!!" Haha, how pathetic can you possibly make yourself sound?

[Kaynin]

To the title of the thread: How about just don't bot at all? :P The title bugs me. xD

The title was originally just "Botter Banstick", since that's essentially what it is. I added the stuff to the side to disambiguate (for our general forum troll lurkers) the difference between Multi-BOXing and Mutli-BOTting.

Fair enough. ;_;

[Sam DeathWalker]

You can't use the delay feature in the programing software that comes with G15?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...706772&sid=1#0

Someone said that they sell the zboard at the blizzard store, are they banning for its use (I assume that it also has delays). I can't post on the wow forums but I would if I could. I would suggest that the agrument is that Blizzard is using windows, thus they have implicitly agreed to support microsoft products when they decided to use the windows platform. Blizzard cannot claim "our product is windows compatable" and then ban you for using hardware sold by the maker of windows who claims you can use their product with all windows games....

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/ga...emRequirements

I would assume that this product allows pauses on its programable keys.

At any rate I don't really understand the problem. Dosn't wow have in game "socials" which has delays? Is there a reason that the in game stuff can't be used?

[Maz]

The delays are gonna cause you trouble if you use them.

The argument that if it's in Windows then it should be allowed doesn't really hold up. WoWGlider is a Windows app after all. You can even get banned for misusing stuff that's part of WoW.

There are clauses in the ToS that cover any behaviour that's not in the spirit of the game. It's these clauses that were used to slap the win-traders a few weeks ago.

Blizzard's command system makes it very clear which actions are intended to be triggered by a hardware event (key depression/mouse click) and which aren't. Adding delays is a way to circumvent that.

I know of at least one person that got banned for using the G15's delays and all he was using it for was to level up his mage's weapon skills. Admittedly, this was some time ago.

[Sam DeathWalker]

A game advertized as "microsoft windows compatable" has to be compatable with the hardware sold by microsoft. Is there any software application that claims to be "microsoft windows compatable" that does not work with microsoft mice or keyboards? Also logictech (and all programable gamepads sellers) needs to tell people that they cannot use their software in WoW ....

[Maz]

You can buy a handgun.

That doesn't mean you won't get in trouble if you use it.

[zanthor]

You can buy a handgun.

That doesn't mean you won't get in trouble if you use it.

You can buy a high end sports car... and when you go 100+ you will be thrown in jail in most states that legally sell you said vehicle.

You can use a G15 with no problems. You can use a z-board with no problems. If you utilize their macro engine to write delay based macro's, then you are opening yourself up to problems. The G15 supports fully scripted (lua based) actions based off hotkeys. I could literally write a full out bot between my G15 and the in game UI (I have no idea why you'd want to limit yourself to lua, but I'm saying it could be done as a matter of study). This would obviously be against the rules.

Don't argue semantics, because Blizzard, just like SOE and Verant before them, can and will ban you for whatever reason they feel compelled to. They both have the clause in their TOS/EULA that says something akin to "we reserve the right to terminate the access of assholes like you."