Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz
Yep. VE just isn't enough on stuff like bog lords that hit him for 3k tramples.
I think that's the key thing I really wanted to know is how long you can stay in shadowform before you have to drop out to start healing/renews. If you exclude the undead crowd control the pally would be getting hit by mobs constantly so I wasn't sure whether VE would be enough to keep him up.

From what you say then it sounds a good combination, I guess for the tougher fights staying out of shadowform might be preferable just to keep healing options open plus it might help a little with reducing aggro. I think I'll give this a go, I had thought about 5xDruids but the 30min cooldown on Rebirth is a bit limiting.

Many thanks for the feedback :-)