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    Default An OS question.

    I'm thinking of buying the following for my new system but I'm not sure what OS I should slap down considering I only use windows really to game. Cedega isn't quite up to any multiboxing as far as I can figure out(unless some one wants to tell me otherwise)... Any how This is some of the guts:

    FI LANPARTY DK 790FX-M2RS ATX AMD Motherboard

    MSI GeForce 8800GT NX8800GT 512M OC Video Card x2

    AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor

    So what OS should I go with to 4 box on this computer... Xp or Vista?

    Also, this is after chatting with some one while I was xping, would it be better for pvp to hay one system, or to have
    2 systems running inline, I figured personally that having everything on the same system buss would lower lag vs relying on a network. I really want to have least lag for pvp.

    I'd like to know some opinions before I go sink a few k into this.
    Hardware multiboxing, and looking good while doing it.

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    Couple questions:

    1) Are you dead set on AMD? The Q6600 is very easily overclockable to 3.0GHz+ with only air cooling, has 8MB of L2 cache instead of 2MB, is faster in every gaming benchmark I've seen and is cheaper. Just sayin...

    2) How much RAM? If you're doing 4GB, there's not much point in spending more money and suffering the potential driver/software headaches of 64-bit. If you're doing >4GB, definitely need 64-bit to even recognize it.
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    Don, Q6600 still good if not overclocked? I don't dare fuck with overclocking things but that's the processor I'm eyeing for my upgrades atm; and what's a good model mobo to go with it? I've only really used AMD setups before so intel models and socket names are newish territory :P
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    XP = win, Vista = fail; 4gb = 32bit as Don said, over 4gb, go 64 but beware driver issues, XP64bit was the "first" 64bit windows so it's got some shortcomings/compatability issues, Vista64's more prepared for it but it's still Vista, so ew. :P

    Just cuz you CAN SLI doesn't mean you SHOULD ;p Get an 8800GT imo, the 9x series doesn't run as well for some technical reason or another, and gives no performance increase over an 8800GT which is overkill anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=61023 #post61023
    Couple questions:

    1) Are you dead set on AMD? The Q6600 is very easily overclockable to 3.0GHz+ with only air cooling, has 8MB of L2 cache instead of 2MB, is faster in every gaming benchmark I've seen and is cheaper. Just sayin...

    2) How much RAM? If you're doing 4GB, there's not much point in spending more money and suffering the potential driver/software headaches of 64-bit. If you're doing >4GB, definitely need 64-bit to even recognize it.
    I do love AMD, been using them since I won one at a give away when I was like 13 or something. I'm not planning on hitting overclocking hard. I meen should I? will it help much?

    I was planing on having 4 gigs of memory also, why is going over that bad? (Seriously I'm a windows NUB on anything past 2k it seems)

    And ya I remember compiling 64 bit Kernal stuff on my Optron server back in the day and crying over Linux driver problems I'd hate to see windows one's even thouh I'm sure they have some fixs al-be-it dirty ones.
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    He won't convert it to mac and we have a handful of mac'ers(poor bastards), I doubt he'll convert for linux either lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Eteocles',index.php?page=Thread&postID=61027#post 61027
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    Don, Q6600 still good if not overclocked? I don't dare fuck with overclocking things but that's the processor I'm eyeing for my upgrades atm; and what's a good model mobo to go with it? I've only really used AMD setups before so intel models and socket names are newish territory :P
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    I use a Q6600 2.4GHz (not overclocked) to run my four 'backup' characters on my team of five (the main being on its own system). The computer has 2GB of memory, a GeForce 7800GTX 256 or 512MB video card, and Windows XP. It runs the four clients just fine, though if it's very busy in Shattrath City it swallows up the 2GB of RAM and the system slows to a crawl, but that isn't the CPU's fault.

    PS- I am a fairly old school overclocker (started with 486 CPUs) but these days I rarely bother because the processors tend to be fast enough for what I am doing. There is definitely an itch to try it, since some Q6600s can overclock to 3.3GHz with the default heatsink and some e8400s (dual core, 3.0GHz) can get as high as 4.5GHz without exotic cooling. But maybe I'm too old or too apathetic, or just happy with current performance levels.

    PPS- Switching between AMD and Intel shouldn't be difficult, for the most part the setups are the same and today's motherboards and BIOSes take nearly all of the work out of getting them set up. Drop in the CPU, attach the HSF, turn it on, and you are set. I use either CPU brand depending on what's available and what costs I'm willing to incur, and have been happy with both companies' products. Same with video cards. I don't mind rooting for sports teams, but I'm not fanatical about hardware companies.
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    Yeah the only thing I'm concerned about switching from AMD to Intel processors is the slot names on mobos so that they're compatible; I had enough trouble figuring it out amongst AMDs various slots when I had to replace my last mobo(had an oooold slot that isn't supported anymore and like 5-8 slots had come out since then all with 3digit numbers besides the AM2 slots); interested in what Intel's slot-naming convention is and which ones're compatible with the Q6600 :p
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    Intel has been kind in not changing they're Socket 775 in a number of generations. 99% of the Intel processors out there will use this socket. Don't be scered.

    What advantage do you think you will achieve from a 64 bit OS? Aside from future proofing... MS has already addressed this with their Easy Upgrade, allowing any Vista user to upgrade their OS online, and for a small upgrade fee. I am disappointed with my Vista64, and am eagerly awaiting the day when all my applications have native 64bit support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=61023 #post61023
    there's not much point in spending more money and suffering the potential driver/software headaches of 64-bit
    QFT!!!

    I downgraded to 32-bit a few weeks back and won't go back, as for the OS I think people will be using XP right through to vista's successor

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