Interesting Quad Rogue Arena Strategy

[Quasi]

I've alternatively thought of going Cold Blood + 4 Ambushes. But getting into range without SS would be quite risky. One perception or flare or trap and it's all she wrote.

[Eteocles]

When I had Cold Blood on my rogue, I also had Imp Ambush; that 15% usually guarantees a crit, so I don't recommend wasting CB on it ;p Use it on the Backstab AFTERwards ;D lol

[Quasi]

When I had Cold Blood on my rogue, I also had Imp Ambush; that 15% usually guarantees a crit, so I don't recommend wasting CB on it ;p Use it on the Backstab AFTERwards ;D lol

True, and the 20% multiplier from Shadowstep minimizes the difference anyways.

[wougoose]

Interesting strategy. I'd really like to see it attempted and practiced. Too many times I've seen "Oh that won't work" without the hours of practice it takes to really be successful. I bet Ellay didn't run in the arena and insta-own everyone the first week he was in there. If there hasn't been many, and I mean many, hours of practice trying something before failure...then I don't believe it to be impossible.

The shamans were once thought as being impossible, and Ellay proved that theory wrong. The rogues are another group that is coined impossible currently, but there is no really strong evidence proving it impossible. I say go for it! All the theorycrafting in the world won't show it to be possible or impossible until it is really put to the test. It looks like you've thought it out quite a bit and have a drive that could eventually lead us to some nice vids in the future

[warcrime]

will not work. sorry, just no way. i've played a rogue for years.

4x actually played rogues in a 5's team isn't that great, 4x played by one will be bad.

4x broken vanish... hah.

to pick a positional spec on top of everything else, yikes.


4 ele shams can work because:

• they aren't melee
• they can attack things that aren't targeted (focus, etc)

you might all be able to shs one guy, if he isn't sitting on a hunter flair, and gib him, then you will get destroyed.

[simpletom]

will not work. sorry, just no way. i've played a rogue for years.

4x actually played rogues in a 5's team isn't that great, 4x played by one will be bad.

4x broken vanish... hah.

to pick a positional spec on top of everything else, yikes.


4 ele shams can work because:

• they aren't melee
• they can attack things that aren't targeted (focus, etc)

you might all be able to shs one guy, if he isn't sitting on a hunter flair, and gib him, then you will get destroyed.

To be totally honist i think, dispite the complications of boxing a melee team in pvp it shouldnt be considered impossible.

I really salute those people who try somthing different rather than just going 4 or 5 shaman cus its a tried and tested proved to work method, thats kinda like playing a warlock rogue or warrior becuase you know that they can dominate in solo pvp rahter than playing a class that you really wanted to play.

Good luck with your rogues mate i hope you can post some vids or pictures

[Tdog]

Interesting strategy. I'd really like to see it attempted and practiced. Too many times I've seen "Oh that won't work" without the hours of practice it takes to really be successful. I bet Ellay didn't run in the arena and insta-own everyone the first week he was in there. If there hasn't been many, and I mean many, hours of practice trying something before failure...then I don't believe it to be impossible.

The shamans were once thought as being impossible, and Ellay proved that theory wrong. The rogues are another group that is coined impossible currently, but there is no really strong evidence proving it impossible. I say go for it! All the theorycrafting in the world won't show it to be possible or impossible until it is really put to the test. It looks like you've thought it out quite a bit and have a drive that could eventually lead us to some nice vids in the future

QFMT

I was constantly hearing that multiple melee boxing was not feasible at all when I first joined the community. Then I started up my own little melee team and figured out a few things and started to hear people say that I might be able to kill things but instance would be too hard, I messed around with it some more and I'm getting through instances w/o any real struggles even the melee unfriendly ones and now people of course saying "Well yea but those aren't outland zones, outland zones are much harder."

Once I get to outlands I have no doubt that I'll be able to complete instances and I'll most likely get people telling me crap like "Well yea but those weren't heroics." Then I'll do some heroics and I'm sure at that point people will still find something to try and get me to doubt myself...

The honest truth is that all to often people immediately dismiss new ideas bucause someone else, more experienced then them told them it's not possible. There's other reasons as well but it seems like this is the main reason. My advice to the OP give it a try! Even if it doesn't work out exactly as well as you had hoped you'll only fail if you don't take your experiences and learn from them. Perhaps you'll learn that you can do it but need to change up some macros and movement strategies, or perhaps class set-up a bit, or w/e.

The only complete failures in life are the ones where we choose to not learn anything at all...

[Ðeceased]

go for it!! if nothing else it will be a hell of a lot of fun, and you will end up with 4 of the highest dps class in game for pve ^^

can i give a few things i think might help for this team setup?

play it sneaky sneaky.

stealth: CS, Rupture and 2xambush any casters for a quick kill. (stun and silence + insane damage all in one) then immediately vanish as you said but use ur shadow step as a means of escaping the area ur in as the others will undoubtedbly be aware where you just were.

so quick kill, vanish and jump behind an incoming player with all 5 and run in the opposite direction. wait till your CDs are ready and do it again although the restrictions on those whirlwinds might mess this up

[Zaelar]

Just because a group of people say something doesn't mean it's true. It also doesn't mean they are wrong and/or that you can prove them wrong.

Me? I'm not saying it can't be done(out loud anyway), but I don't see melee working in arenas well at all. That shouldn't stop you from trying it if you want to. I encourage you to prove me wrong and I hope you do. In the pve aspect the only fights that I could see give meleers a problem are ones that involve a lot of movement. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get far in pve with meleers, but I would still say they are worse off than other classes without proof. Again, feel encouraged to try and prove me wrong.

[simpletom]

main reason i really think this could work is because of shadow step it puts the characaters in exactly the right spot for meleeing

i really hope it works out for you mate keep us posted