Vyndree, Guilds, and Content

[Eteocles]

They did that once, Bigfish...remember the anubis boss just outside Cen Hold in Silithus, that everyone killed for the Nature Resist pants quest reward?(I think you had to do it to enter aq20 anyways, not sure); a good raid could kill him with a handful but most of the time it was a bunch of pugs.

However, the downside to that content is something I see quite often...once people do/kill something like that they never want to help do it again. I was among the first when DA killed him to get us the pants + attuned but when the 2nd round came very few were willing to go back(I loved healing back then so I volunteered to help out); we ended up puggin it lol and I saw similar situations on my hunter's server when I needed to do it too

[Khazrael]

That was one thing I really liked about FFXI, back in the day. You hit the level cap or something near it, and there were bosses you went out and killed for different quests, and while you could accomplish them with a few well geared players, you could throw a bunch of scrubs at it if that was all you had, and by the end of the fight, half of them were dead, everyone else was almost dead, but by God you finished the fight. Now THAT was epic.

Edit: Oh, and FFXI had a system in place where taking more people actually put you at a disadvantage on some fights. Bosses had lots of AOE, and if you pulled aggro, you tended to get a Falcon Punch type move that would hit for twice your max HP. Man, those were the days.

I loved FFXI so much. It was such a terrible grind, but the combat system was great. I never could get that far in it though, as I got sick of spending all my time LFG and then finding terribad groups that caused me to actually LOSE experience instead of gain it, boo.

If I had a multiple machine set up, I would so totally multibox ffxi.

[Crucial]

Leading a raid and just about to pull the boss and two people go afk suddenly. They come back much later to report their 2 year old had just shit on the carpet (this actually happened). Needless to say I've preferred less 'casual' guilds after that. (Maybe this was the catalyst for multiboxing??)

[Eteocles]

That's what you get for using cheap cloth diapers.

Sounds kinda like a "BRB CAT'S ON FIRE/POWER WENT OUT" kind of excuse to me though ;p

[Crucial]

That's what you get for using cheap cloth diapers.

Sounds kinda like a "BRB CAT'S ON FIRE/POWER WENT OUT" kind of excuse to me though ;p

Unfortunately it wasn't - they also posted pictures of their kid crawled up under their computer desk sleeping with a blanket and head propped up against the computer tower.

[Gallo]

When I was guild leader (before I rerolled on another server with my shamans), we had this older guy that was an officer in the guild since its inception. He was in his late 50's, and was a hilarious person to have in vent. He was also out MT healer usually. Well, when we were running BWL and were fighting Vael you hear over vent " *ding dong* Oh dammit" " *ding dong* Shit guys, my doorbell is ringing and I'm the only one home" everyone yells "ignore it!" " *ding dong* Dammit guys, who could be at my door??" He waited the whole fight before jumping up and checking. The person was gone and he never found out who it was.

Hilarity.

[Ifalna]

We had a turkish guy in a raid back in the old BWL days, who while on vent started screaming expletives while massive booming sounds came onto the channel, then went quiet. We were all terrified, and stopped raiding while trying to get in contact with him as he slowly afk'd out and dissapeared.

3 hours of worry later he arrives back, there had been a massive earthquake, and he had run out to check the girls run out of their homes from the bathroom in the nip. Now that was real drama.

[Canasou]

I wonder if sales would have been different if on the TBC trailer when Illidan comes out they put up a subtitle that says, "Note: 98% of you will never actually see this guy in game"

An outstanding point!

[Ðeceased]

Sounds like excelent parents....

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We had a turkish guy in a raid back in the old BWL days, who while on vent started screaming expletives while massive booming sounds came onto the channel, then went quiet. We were all terrified, and stopped raiding while trying to get in contact with him as he slowly afk'd out and dissapeared.

3 hours of worry later he arrives back, there had been a massive earthquake, and he had run out to check the girls run out of their homes from the bathroom in the nip. Now that was real drama.

and holy fudge!

think the worst I've come across was on my old server, when this guy was complaining about stomach ache. He began describing what was wrong and it became pretty obvious he was in the midst of a hernia and had no idea what it was.. needless to say we ordered him to go to the hospital immediately.

[Tonuss]

I have never had the hardcore raider mindset, so I always went with more casual guilds. It has always worked out for me, there is very little drama and what little there is I can usually avoid and ignore. When I started playing WoW some friends and I formed our own guild and we just invite RL friends/family and any friends we make in-game who play as casually as we do. The guild has gotten pretty large and we have a pretty good time. We've only ever removed two or three people for trying to cause drama, and those removals were early and quick.

If you are going to raid, you will wind up dealing with some of the headaches that come with it, it's hard to avoid them. Considering that you are taking ~30 competitive people to do something that is pretty frustrating for a shot at a reward that you'll replace in a couple of months, it's pretty impressive that any guilds manage to progress at all. But I can afford to see the glass as half full, since I am nice and happy in my casual guild.