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    Default Things I like about Octopus and why it's my choice to use for Multi-boxxing

    1. Instances run on the same computer automatically are found. In other words, you don't have to click on the window. You can have 2 games automatically be found when the games are run. I play both Guild Wars and World of Warcraft (not at the same time ) so I can put in the Window Title 'Guild Wars and in the process name 'wow' and Octopus works with both of those games. I don't have to change the name of the window or process each time I switch to one of the other games to play.

    2. There is no cost for Octopus. This also means there is no registration server to connect to validate you paid for your license. You can donate if you'd like to the person that wrote it, but it works just fine as it is.

    3. Source code for Octopus is also distributed which means if you are so inclined, you can look through the code.

    4. Mouse and Keyboard works for games and you can use a separate pause key for each of those. You can pause the mouse entirely at any time or you can pause the keyboard. Great for getting non-sharable quests at the same time. You can also pause only the mouse click instead of the mouse cursor if you'd like.

    5. The primary machine (server in Octopus terms) has a remote function that allows you to shut down all of your client machines in one press. Great for end of day after you're done playing and going to shut down your machines, you can hit that function and all of your machines shut down.

    6. Octopus works great, it can be set to run in the windows vista scheduler when windows comes up as administrator automatically and be placed into the system tray. So you don't have to click on the program when Windows Vista is started. For XP, it's easier to configure as the icon just needs to be placed into the Startup folder.

    7. Octopus supports both upper and lower case letters for typing. It recognizes the when the shift key is pressed and all of the clones (clients) will display the same letters. That goes for ALT and CTRL as well. I really like this feature because it allows me to have all of my characters in Guild Wars dance at the same time with the correct sync from the main computer. In other words, /dance * will work fine when typed from the main computer to the clients.



    One of the things that maybe annoying to some is that when the Pause key is pressed, there is no indication on the game screen that this has occurred. However, for me personally, I'd rather have it this way than have a window pop up that some times bugs out because of the video resolution.

    For those of you that have not tried Octopus, you really dont know what you're missing. I've tried the other programs listed in the software listing on these forums and they have not worked as well as Octopus has for me. I use mutliple computers on a Lan at home connected to a router to my cable modem. Octopus is a champion for me.

    If you're going to try Octopus and you're using Windows Vista, it will only work when run as Administrator. That means the icon will either need to be set to run that way, or it is right clicked and run that way or it is configured in the Windows Vista Scheduler to run as Administrator automatically which is the way I have mine set up.

    By the way, I box 9 characters at the same time. All of them are on different computers. So by using Octopus, I don't have to register each machine, I just download the pre-requisites (.net framework 3.5 and the Visual C++ runtime) and they all work. 2 of my machines are running Windows XP and the other 7 are Windows Vista. When I boxxed on Everquest, I had not used any keyboard replication software. In fact, when I boxxed in Diablo 1 back in 1997, I don't think any keyboard replication software existed

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    I'll pretty much agree with everything here. I've no complaints with Octopus' stability or performance.

    The only caveat is that if you're not computer-literate and starting having a lot of issues, Keyclone might be a better option for you as Rob can walk you through the process and help with bugs over the phone.
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    I have used both and currently use Octopus to MB 5 on the same machine. I don't think there is much between them. I would like to see round robin in Octopus though. Octopus is free but you get an outstanding level of support with Keyclone.

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    I currently use KeyClone, but I've tried both. KeyClone is so cheap the price doesn't factor in for me. I use KeyClone for these reasons:

    a. Works with Vista. Neither I nor a friend of mine have been able to get Octupus not to crash on start up. I guess you've had better luck.

    b. Octupus has no support for round robin which is a must have if you are multiboxing Shamans.

    c. Can't specify process affinity in Octupus. I use multi core machines and each runs multiple copies of wow. Doing this by hand is painful.

    One great thing about Octupus is that it seems to always pass the correct keys. I use '1' for Lightning Bolt and 'Ctrl+1' for nova totem. When using KeyClone sometimes I will press '1' to activate Lightning Bolt and instead I drop a bunch of totems. This has caused me a few wipes. To "fix" it, I have to press the 'Ctrl' key a few times to get it unstuck.

    I don't have the latest version of Visual Studio so I put an order for it a few days ago. Once it arrives I'm going to modify Octupus and add the features I need and debug it under Vista to see why it is crashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by '0xdeadbeef',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57621#po st57621
    I currently use KeyClone, but I've tried both. KeyClone is so cheap the price doesn't factor in for me. I use KeyClone for these reasons:

    a. Works with Vista. Neither I nor a friend of mine have been able to get it not to crash on start up. I guess you've had better luck.

    b. Octupus has no support for round robin which is a must have if you are multiboxing Shamans.

    c. Can't specify process affinity. I use multi core machines and each runs multiple copies of wow. Doing this by hand is painful.

    One great thing about Octupus is that it seems to always pass the correct keys. I use '1' for Lightning Bolt and 'Ctrl+1' for nova totem. When using KeyClone sometimes I will press '1' to activate Lightning Bolt and instead I drop a bunch of totems. This has caused me a few wipes. To "fix" it, I have to press the 'Ctrl' key a few times to get it unstuck.

    I don't have the latest version of Visual Studio so I put an order for it a few days ago. Once it arrives I'm going to modify Octupus and add the features I need and debug it under Vista to see why it is crashing.
    Personally I am a keyclone fan but I would just like to point out that octopus should not need round robin, you can use castsequence macros like so:

    Shaman 1 /castsequence warstomp,,
    Shaman 2 /castsequence ,warstomp,
    Shaman 3 /castsequnece ,,warstomp

    Something to that effect will work just fine. (code may be incorrect or missing something but a quick search of the forums will get you what you need)
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    For Octopus:
    You can set affinity, you can set any of the config values per instance I have all mine set to 15 which seems fine for now but I may try tank and healer on 2 cores and 3 dps on the other 2.

    Against Octopus:
    Yep I use cast sequence, normally for interrupts or slows, but that means adding a /stopcasting at the start of the macro causing all of the toons to stop (rather than the one who is 'up' in the sequence). With KeyClones Round Robin only 1 toon would stop, the others would continue their current cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Nitro',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57664#post576 64
    Personally I am a keyclone fan but I would just like to point out that octopus should not need round robin, you can use castsequence macros like so:

    Shaman 1 /castsequence warstomp,,
    Shaman 2 /castsequence ,warstomp,
    Shaman 3 /castsequnece ,,warstomp

    Something to that effect will work just fine. (code may be incorrect or missing something but a quick search of the forums will get you what you need)
    The main advantage I can see to having this kind of thing done by round robin is that it frees up a valable macro slot. With all the nice little healing macros I have, the shock/LB combo macros, the different totem patterns, accept/invite macros, and of course something to do a lightshow and dance I am guarding those few slots rather zealously.

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    [quote='Molt',index.php?page=Thread&postID=58004#po st58004][quote='Nitro',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57664#p ost57664]Personally I am a keyclone fan but I would just like to point out that octopus should not need round robin, you can use castsequence macros like so:

    Shaman 1 /castsequence warstomp,,
    Shaman 2 /castsequence ,warstomp,
    Shaman 3 /castsequnece ,,warstomp

    Something to that effect will work just fine. (code may be incorrect or missing something but a quick search of the forums will get you what you need)[/quote]The main advantage I can see to having this kind of thing done by round robin is that it frees up a valable macro slot. With all the nice little healing macros I have, the shock/LB combo macros, the different totem patterns, accept/invite macros, and of course something to do a lightshow and dance I am guarding those few slots rather zealously.[/quote]

    [url='http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11720/']Trinity Bars[/url] takes some getting used to, and substantial set-up time (especially for a boxer) but is ultimately a way of introducing lots of macros with much larger character length (not just 255). This all depending on the space available (cache).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ðeceased',index.php?page=Thread&postID=79466#post7 9466][url='http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11720/
    Trinity Bars[/url] takes some getting used to, and substantial set-up time (especially for a boxer) but is ultimately a way of introducing lots of macros with much larger character length (not just 255). This all depending on the space available (cache).
    The template system for Trinity Bars is also godly for me, since my main has to quickly switch bindings/macros/keys for raiding enhancement and multiboxing resto. She also has a template for raiding resto as well.

    Combined with an equip mod like Outfitter, it takes me just a couple seconds to go from multiboxing to raiding to pvping.
    TBC/Wrath Multiboxer: Velath / Velani / Velathi / Velatti / Velavi / Velarie [Archimonde (US-PvP)]

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    Quote Originally Posted by '0xdeadbeef',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57621#po st57621
    I currently use KeyClone, but I've tried both. KeyClone is so cheap the price doesn't factor in for me. I use KeyClone for these reasons:

    a. Works with Vista. Neither I nor a friend of mine have been able to get Octupus not to crash on start up. I guess you've had better luck.

    b. Octupus has no support for round robin which is a must have if you are multiboxing Shamans.

    c. Can't specify process affinity in Octupus. I use multi core machines and each runs multiple copies of wow. Doing this by hand is painful.

    One great thing about Octupus is that it seems to always pass the correct keys. I use '1' for Lightning Bolt and 'Ctrl+1' for nova totem. When using KeyClone sometimes I will press '1' to activate Lightning Bolt and instead I drop a bunch of totems. This has caused me a few wipes. To "fix" it, I have to press the 'Ctrl' key a few times to get it unstuck.

    I don't have the latest version of Visual Studio so I put an order for it a few days ago. Once it arrives I'm going to modify Octupus and add the features I need and debug it under Vista to see why it is crashing.

    With all due respect, this message thread is about Octopus, NOT Keyclone. If you guys want to go there, we can, but I'm here to tell you, I've tried both also and I have a large list of bugs in Keyclone that probably won't be fixed. So please stop posting about non-working software (in my opinion) in this message thread. This message thread was not intended for a comparison about the two key replication programs. When I had posted about the comparison a large number of Keyclone fanatics jumped on me about it. So if you persist here, I will jump on you the same.

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