Solo is the new Gimp!

[Ðeceased]

While that's understandable in some fashion, I just want to make sure you realize that this "drama" you're trying to avoid most likely did not stem with the girl. It's the "immature boys" that you're trying to avoid.

Which, of course, you're going to continue to have. But instead of QQing about some girl they'll be QQing about loot distribution and DKP and "why did I not get an invite to the raid?!" and then ninja-afk'ing in the middle of a pull and yelling mass profanities and chuck norris jokes in /gchat.

So, I guess what I'm saying is -- by avoiding the females in order to avoid the drama that immature boys have when they're near them, you're really trying to avoid the immature boys. And since you're really not avoiding the immature boys at all..... get my drift?


Besides, I had been in this guild 4-5 months as "friend status" and caused no major fuss. Nor did the other few females in that guild. In fact, our MT's and OT's cause more drama between themselves than I can ever imagine causing.

Vyn, I'm rly sorry to hear about all that, but also very glad to hear you're out of that place (pitty about all that time and energy wasted :S). That GM is a complete asshat.

as for this whole drama thing. I have to side with Vyn on her last point. From personal experience I don't think I would want to be in a guild that was all male. We have several female players in it, officers and regular members/raiders, and I don't think I've come across a more sedate and friendly bunch (in WoW at least - this webby is a close second. altho there are some of you out there with bees under your bonnet ^^). My guild has got very good at weeding out trouble makers (to some degree of tolerance) and most of that can be solely attributed to having female members.
Anyone showing them little respect, simply for them being female doesn't last very long. Not because we are overprotective (altho that reason alone, is justification for a boot imo), but because those same ppl often show similar trends in other aspects of their personality, and eventually leave, through sheer frustration at how many of us are, or because they are eventually booted for being asses. Most of the drama that is ever caused in our guild, is by those members. Fortunately we have very few, if at all.

I have heard of quite a few guild breakups over my wow time, where at the heart of the split a girl is involved in some capacity or another. But I think that is often emphasised to a disproportionate degree, simply because many players still think of female gamers as something of a rarity and therefore feel the need to highlight that fact.

Oh and a final note. that Nihilum thing was a joke! I do find it rather amusing to be honest how that was covered tho.


"NIHILUM don't accept girls into their guild!!"It was a joke btw..



EDIT: I should rly learn to proof read my posts.. think there's 10+ mistakes i had to correct :S

[Ðeceased]

....jeez I sound like a blue from the CSF forum.

see what happens when you hang out with them so much!!!

[Eteocles]

(in WoW at least - this webby is a close second. altho there are some of you out there with bees under your bonnet ).

They're wasps, not bees damnit!(lol ;) )

[Mak]

like being mistaken for just "one of the guys". When they realize I'm not going to cry at their dirty jokes or make them feel uncomfortable, it's alot easier to get past the "she's a GIRL?!" phase and get straight into the "damn, you're a good player" part. I pride myself on the levels I can push to. Prior to WoW I was a competitive guild wars player, and with me as a core player in our guild vs guild battles we made it to the top 100. When I put my mind to something, I don't play around.

I hear ya. I just recently had someone find out I was a girl and said he was going to change all the jokes. Seriously, don't spare me. It's not like I haven't experienced it before and can't handle it. I have had mostly positive responses on the rare occasion I announce myself as female. This one guy admitted to testing me to see if I was in fact a guy. He said something ending with 'man' and of course, I didn't correct him. He was shocked to find out I was a female. Unless explicitly asked, I will let people believe I'm a guy. Whatever they want to think, go for it.

And I'm glad to hear that Nilithum thing was a joke. It had me pretty pissed that day but since I've calmed down. And thanks to all you, I know it wasn't real. /cheer

[Eteocles]

You're a girl Mak?! OHSHI-...kidding ;p(I really didn't realize/remember you were though but that doesn't matter :P)

That "test" the guy gave you was stupid...just saying "man" at the end doesn't mean anything, hell stoner stereotypes(aka Cheech n Chong) end half the things they say with ", man." anyways. Pardon the example ladies, but it's the irony of Cheech saying something like "Nice tits, man" :P(was the first contradicting example that came to mind, hey I'm a guy whaddya expect :p); bottom line is it isn't a valid test lol

There are quite a few chicks who go around doing the same thing guys do...pretending to be the opposite gender(usually to avoid the "UR A GIRL LOL TITS OR GTFO" drama though not always) too so who knows how many there really are :p It's an interesting bit to think about though, for all you know that undead rogue missing his jaw that ganked you could be some hot chick that's lol'ing at you as she cannibalizes your corpse :P

[Mak]

You're a girl Mak?! OHSHI-...kidding ;p(I really didn't realize/remember you were though but that doesn't matter :P)

That "test" the guy gave you was stupid...just saying "man" at the end doesn't mean anything, hell stoner stereotypes(aka Cheech n Chong) end half the things they say with ", man." anyways. Pardon the example ladies, but it's the irony of Cheech saying something like "Nice tits, man" :P(was the first contradicting example that came to mind, hey I'm a guy whaddya expect ); bottom line is it isn't a valid test lol

There are quite a few chicks who go around doing the same thing guys do...pretending to be the opposite gender(usually to avoid the "UR A GIRL LOL TITS OR GTFO" drama though not always) too so who knows how many there really are It's an interesting bit to think about though, for all you know that undead rogue missing his jaw that ganked you could be some hot chick that's lol'ing at you as she cannibalizes your corpse :P

Lol, yup, but don't worry, I just recently announced it here. You didn't miss much.

And...I actually am planning on playing the opposite gender in a few of my future crews. I want to run a BE female priest with 2x male Tauren Shaman, 2x male Tauren Druids. I think it would look awesome. The biggest race with the smallest. And I have two male NEs in my crew of 5x druids. I can't help it, I think they're cute.

I have to say I will never forget the first time I met a guy playing a girl character. I was like 'what?!' but lately, it's become the norm. I just don't think I'll ever get it.

[Eteocles]

KSboxer had a few chicas in his group too when he came to give me linen bags when I rolled my Zerglings...kinda stuck out but at the same time it's less "cloneish" than most people easily spot so it can be a good thing as well as a nice variety change; I however like being a bunch of clones, so I can yell things like "WE ARE THE BOOMKIN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOUR CLASSOGICAL UNIQUENESS WILL BE ASSIMILATED INTO THE DRUID'S." ;D

[pipakin]

I've got a male tank character leading my group of 1 male and 3 females. Does that say something about my personality? I think I might be a closet patriarchist...

lol

BTW, most of the male casting animations are...strange. I had a male ngiht elf druid once and couldn't stand the seizure/constipation casting pose.

[Maxion]

The best reasoning I ever heard for the whole "playing as the opposite sex" thing was:

"If I'm gonna spend this much time looking at a butt, it better be one of the opposite sex." (or whatever your preference is)

[Silly Gooooose]

As for those.. well, I fail to think of a word for that bunch in the guild.. :cursing:
Kinda feel sorry for that poor shammy that's stuck between you and the guild inch: I'd be very worried to get on the wrong side of either of you!

I am a girl. And girls cannot perform in video games at the same level as men.

Well Scientology has proven it to be true.