Heroic dunegons and 5m setup

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The benefits of adding a shaman to that setup instead of a second lock/mage I think far outweigh the lesser AoE output. Prior to the nerf I was planning on running paladin tank/holy priest (main)/lock/mage/ele shaman. The bloodlust for harder bosses and the earth/fire elementals are huge benefits, especially now that we are going to be far more delayed in our abilities compared to what we are used to with JMB and other programs.

Have to run out for a bit with the wife but would love to discuss in more detail. I check Discord far more and will send a message there at some point as well.

Understood but that assumes you have a Priest Healer (which is understandable since it is your main). That being said can you get most of the benefits by adding a Resto Shaman instead and keeping all the AoE... IIRC Resto Shaman can still do Bloodlust & Elementals and Totems (Magma AoE + Earthbind/Tremor + Tranquil/Wrath-of-Air + Healing/Mana) and still apply Earth Shield and Chain Heal (and/or still do some DPS here and there).

To be clear, I have posted many times in many places that I think Paladin+4Shaman (and having a 5th Shaman option) is the optimum team for clearing TBC dungeons for most folk though that was before the ToS changes... Besides the fact that I have bad Carpul Tunnels I am just not going to play a spammy playstyle that may look like streamlined or broadcast inputs unless I have to (at least until we learn more about the ToS changes and fallout)...