Input Device compatibility testing with KVM & KM switches

[bpkdasbaum]

FJ Gear US-108
8 ports KVM switch USB synchronizer 8 ports synchronous controller
Official Website: http://www.fj-gear.com/US108/show/217.html
Stay on chinese version and use google translate, the english website does not have any content/info
Basically identical with ShuOne 8 port Synchronouse KM switch (some different shortcuts)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3301...70075cefmlny63
They are shipping worldwide, couldn't buy the Shuone from Amazon.com, as they don't deliver to EU.
My order arrived after about a week. Faster than estimated on aliexpress.


GOOD to OK: Corsair K70 RBG Rapidfire
Functions as normal keyboard & macros/profile can be saved to device if plugged in normally before.
No access to iCUE software when connected through KVM.

GOOD to OK: Mouse Logitech G700S
Functions as normal mouse & macros/profile can be saved to device if plugged in normally before (all additional 10 buttons work and send keyboard strokes)
No access to Logitech Gaming software when connected through KVM.

NOTE: The FJ Gear US-108 KVM has a 3 key rollover limit.
Meaning when you walk forward (1), strafe(2) and rightlick mouselook(3) at the same time, the mouse will sometimes lose focus due to signal updates of continuous mouse, but catches itself again.
When additionally pressing a spell button (4) the mouse will always lose focus.

Did anyone experience this limit with the ShuOne?

[nodoze]

FJ Gear US-108 8 ports KVM switch USB synchronizer 8 ports ... Basically identical with ShuOne 8 port Synchronouse KM switch (some different shortcuts) ...
[various test results for the FJ US-108...

bpkdasbaum, Thanks and I added a section for the FJ Gear US-108 8 port sync KM in the 3rd post from the top.

Also ... the 8 port AIMOS. I've been using it constantly since I got my 8 Port and it works identically to the 4 port.

I can test the K585 Red Dragon keypad and K588 tenkeyless Red Dragon keyboard soon. I'll update this post once I can do that. I think it is safe to say that anything that works on the 4 port AIMOS will work the same on the 8 port. Unless we find an indication they're somehow different, you might be able to combine them to save space in the posts?

Thanks for the idea and I combined them (please let me now if it can be further improved).

If you have any new results please do NOT go back and update the above post and rather post them to the end of thread as seeing new posts is how I know new results are needing to be added...

[Prega]

soon update my experience, got from aliexpress shuOne 8x and a new entry MT-WiKi 8x, same aimos keys combo .
so can do some test for
shuone
aimos 4x and 8x
MT-WiKi 8x

anyone noticed issues with ctrl or shift combo not working?
or maybe it s depends by kb used?

[Wootenblatz]

Additional testing I've done:

Red Dragon K588-RGB: TenKeyless KB (named "Broadsword") - General device notes:

• There is no dedicated software for this keyboard but I was able to use the K587RGB-Pro software.
• G key macros recorded in hardware seem to store the key was pressed, as opposed to the output of that key. By that I mean a G key set to NUM* will play back as the USB HID value for NUM* and not just *.

GOOD - ShuOne: use the REC button to assign G keys to Sync On and direct port swapping. Direct swapping works with both of the ShuOne's WINKEY+# and ALT+# port swapping options. I used this keyboard for at least 3 weeks with my ShuOne and it was great.

OK- AIMOS 4+8: The device works and you can use the K587 software to record macros to the G-keys (not the case for all Red Dragon keyboards). The lack of a numpad means hardware recording of the AIMOS sync/swapping shortcuts requires software macros. Software macros stored on a G key played back unreliable for me. While I did not test the rebind approach I ended up using for the K586, it may work better (see below). If you do not care about recording AIMOS hot keys to the G-keys, you might consider this GOOD instead of OK.

Red Dragon K586RGB-Pro: Full size keyboard (named "Brahma Pro") with a similar layout to the 588 - General device notes:

• Dedicated software available but you cannot record software macros to the G keys
• Hardware macros seem to store the output of the key pressed instead of the USB HID value for the key pressed. A G key bound to NUM* will play back as *. NUM5 plays back as 5 and not NUM5. I could not find any resources for if this was a hardware limitation or some kind of toggle.
• Software macros bound to non-G keys play back by USB HID value and not output of the key. This keyboard seems to behave in the opposite fashion compared to the K588. Honestly, it baffles me they're so different.

(out of the box) OK - ShuOne and AIMOS 4+8: The device works as a keyboard. Pressing KM sync command hotkeys manually results in the proper behavior on the device. However, recording a KM sync hot key on a G key via a macro recorded in hardware mode did not work for me. For instance on the AIMOS a G key bound to NUM*+NUM2 would play back as *2 and the AIMOS would stay on port 1. NUM*+NUM0 would play back as *0 and Sync would stay off. This is what I am referring to with all of my "USB HID value vs output of key" talk is about above.

(minor macro rebinding) GOOD - AIMOS4+8, probably the ShuOne as well. I have this working great with the following changes:

• Create a hardware macro that maps the G1 to F1, G2 to F2, G3 to F3, G4 to F4 and G5 to F5
• In software record the port swap command for your KM sync to each of the Function keys. For example, F1 has a macro that issues NUM*+NUM1
• Pick one other "Regular" key to add a software macro to for Sync On. I used INS but any non-G key will do. You can bind this key to any of the G6 through G10 keys if you want.

Essentially you're turning the G keys into into function keys and then using function keys for macros. It works great so far. As I noted above this method may work for the 588 and the AIMOS but I did not test it.

[yeaunome]

Red Dragon K586RGB-Pro: Full size keyboard (named "Brahma Pro") with a similar layout to the 588 - General device notes:

• Dedicated software available but you cannot record software macros to the G keys
• Hardware macros seem to store the output of the key pressed instead of the USB HID value for the key pressed. A G key bound to NUM* will play back as *. NUM5 plays back as 5 and not NUM5. I could not find any resources for if this was a hardware limitation or some kind of toggle.
• Software macros bound to non-G keys play back by USB HID value and not output of the key. This keyboard seems to behave in the opposite fashion compared to the K588. Honestly, it baffles me they're so different.

(minor macro rebinding) GOOD - AIMOS4+8, probably the ShuOne as well. I have this working great with the following changes:

• Create a hardware macro that maps the G1 to F1, G2 to F2, G3 to F3, G4 to F4 and G5 to F5
• In software record the port swap command for your KM sync to each of the Function keys. For example, F1 has a macro that issues NUM*+NUM1
• Pick one other "Regular" key to add a software macro to for Sync On. I used INS but any non-G key will do. You can bind this key to any of the G6 through G10 keys if you want.

Essentially you're turning the G keys into into function keys and then using function keys for macros. It works great so far. As I noted above this method may work for the 588 and the AIMOS but I did not test it.

thanks for the breakdown, works perfect. Was worried it was going to cause issues with my mouse, as I use 12 keys on the naga trinity for most of my abilities, and those are bound to the function keys already. I have my F1-F6(Aimos Slots) bound to my 6 chars (5sham x 1mage) on the KB, Broadcast to tilde. Not sure how, but Function 1-6 on my mouse doesnt interfere with the Function 1-6 on the KB.

[Arcomion]

Hey all. Like everyone else, I have set about running hardware mulktiboxing. I want to share my experience with the ShuOne switch and the Steelseries Apex Pro keyboard.




I wanted to use macro to easily press sync on and off. Unfortunately it was not possible to record Scroll Lock + Scroll Lock + 0 in the software program in windows 10.


I tried to record macro but when I pressed Scroll Lock it only recorded when I released the scroll button, ie up arrow. It should record the down arrow when I pressed the button and the up arrow when I released the button. But unfortunately it did not, it only recorded the up button which led to me not being able to record the macro to have sync on and off.


After 5 hours I figured out how to get around this problem.


This is how:
1. Press and hold ALT
2. Now press the Scroll Lock x2 +0
3. Release the Alt Button
4. Remove the Alt keys inside the macro.
5. Enjoy

Hope this helps. Will show with pictures below with the Steelseries own software for macros..




Picture 1: How it did look when i tried to record macro.



Picture 2: Workaround to make the macro work with ALT pressed



Picture 3: Now remove the Alt buttons, right click on it and remove so it looks like this









Sorry for my english.
Regards

[nodoze]

The initial post at the top of the thread has been updated with everything up to this post. Thanks for submissions thus far and please post to the end of this thread any corrections or new submissions (or if I missed something above). Please link to original sources if from other threads/sites and I will try to include the links in the summary.

[Prega]

some update, reverting some of my initial impressions about Logitech 502 hero (and probably also for older 502).

after more testing can confirm Logitech 502 Hero works GOOD with AIMOS 8 ports (and probably with 4 ports version too):

- setup profile macro(s)/keybinds inside Logitech Hub software with mouse direcly connected on pc;
- in my tests i ve used macros like *+0,*+1 etc followed *+F9/*+F10. these macros with first combo change active pc and with second switch relative/absolute mouse state on AIMOS.
- lock profile, and then activate this profile on onboard memory . i removed all other profile leaving just this one.
add here manual for Logitech Hub usage.
- modern logitech items supports a powerful lua scripting with good API for complex tasks.
- i ve spent some time programming a loop sequence: bad news, these scripts looks like not working while mouse is working with onboard memory only outside Logitech Hub software.
- quit logitech hub and connect mouse directly to AIMOS and it now can sends input to AIMOS switch, repeat after enable memory onboad with that profile active.
- suggest to disable other onboard profiles to make possible use more buttons normally used for logitech profiles switch tasks.

after setup, used to levelling a team 50-51. make AIMOS switching flawless.


tested a bit AIMOS 8 ports in combo with another branded/called MTVIKI 8 ports, it uses same combo and has similar functionality.

my MT-VIKI has some defective usb cables, for the rest it works similar ot AIMOS
not sure if it s same chip, but about AIMOS OS shows as ASX68004 (its chip signature).
https://www.asix.com.tw/en/product/M...VM_SoC/AX68004

for MT-VIKI is generic composite usb controller.


use this post to ask a question about ShuOne:

weird fact, after some tests on PID mine cant be controlled anymore, tryed to reset, nothing. it seems now cant interact with any keyboard or keypad.
try to be clearer: looks like the commands sent to ShuOne bypass it and reach pc/s, no chance to get working anymore ScrollLock+ScrollLock+N etc etc.
i bought mine on aliexpress from china.

anyone got similar issue or has possible solution?
nvm!
solved with scrllock+scrllock+K and then scrolllockx2+R

[Sweetfear]

Have you figured out a way to store more complex macros (macros that utilize "while holding" and "on release") on the G502?

My approach was to e.g. have my dps spread out while using the mousewheel-tilt-left button. works when being controlled via GHUB, doesnt work when saved in the onboard memory.

What DOES work though, is having all keypresses in the "on press" section. so e.g. having a cast macro that first enables broadcasting and then presses the key and switches back to the main char works. (*0 [cast key] *0 *5).

For movement, the key needs to stay pressed - so e.g. *0 [move key][move key][move key][move key][move key][move key]... *0 *5 -This macro is not working when in onboard mode.

Does anybody have a recommendation for a mouse where this is actually possible?

Other than that, G502 and Logitec G910 working fine with the Aimos8. Switching to a Coolermaster SK650 though due to the G910 having no onboard memory.

[Prega]

Today tested Corsair K95 Platinum: worksGOOD with AIMOS 8p.
hardware macros working perfectly.