Glimmer of light - Hardware boxing, and it still has the power!

[daviddoran]

It would be interesting if ISBoxer lite could let you do something like displaying a portion of the healer's UI using isboxer, by using teamviewer or Parsec to view the healer's screen from your main computer.

[nodoze]

great work!

just ordered the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZSZFL8/ a few minutes ago - shipment to germany takes about 3-4 weeks -.-

just to be clear, instead of upgrading my current system, I'll buy 4 x 250,-- workstations, spend them new graphic card (approx 150,-- Euro), and the only drawback I see are:

- explaining to my wife why I need 4 more workstation ;-)
- little more power consumption
- and for now, in case I read over it - now mouse over healing in focus window

Am I right?

greeting

I don't know what your current system and setup is but before buying 4 PCs and taking up all that space and electricity and heat I would look at something like the following which may only cost you ~$170 to ~$400 total (depending on your current setup):

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/57967-So-hardware-multiboxing?p=433463&viewfull=1#post433463

Architecturally it virtually identical to Ellay's config and you are still leveraging hardware based keystroke casting but are doing it more cost effectively to VMs (actually virtual desktops) instead of physical PCs. Actually instead of VMs that leverages Virtual Desktops which are much easier to manage than full VMs (I think just 1 install of Windows etc)...

[jak3676]

• Software Unicasting to 1 client: Now Bannable because the software can be abused;

I agree that software unicasting can be problematic, and it can be abused. But I don't think we can make a blanket statement that software unicasting to 1 client is bannable. That would prohibit software like an on-screen keyboard from sending commands to a single client - that is still perfectly allowed. Similarly out-of-game macros that only send a single keystroke to a single client are also allowed.

From a multibox software perspective, I really like the approach that Lax is taking with the new Joe Multi-Boxer (JMB) software - that JMB will not send any commands to any clients. That's a great way to ensure that your product cannot be abused. But that's going beyond the requirement.

[Tdog]

Major bias now. Was on this morning with 2 hunters on follow. People are now reporting like mad, saying multiboxing is banned. You try and tell them it's not. They don't care now that Blizz banned software. Going to be a real pain and makes it way less fun playing being concerned every person is going to harass and report you.

I've always tried to be off the radar, but even traveling now people are attacking you. Demotivating for sure. I'm doing 100% manual at the moment. No multiplexer. 5 windows open, mouse over, click the person to loot, attack, follow. We'll see how long that lasts.

I get the above setup is hardware, but it is still one press and sending that to all computers at once correct? Hardware or software, isn't that setup doing exactly what they don't want? I'm sure they follow and read this site. If they see that, they could just ban it all together.

Be great if they would just give us a server or two.

HAHAHA.... Now you will feel the pain we experience in vanilla! >

It will eventually blow over, but yes the plebs jump to conclusions instantly, ignore every attempt at logic, and it will be probably most of Shadow Lands before they finally stfu...

Just be prepared to completely ignore people when you are running around on your toons. And when they threaten you with being reported, just tell them to "Have fun with that!". And if they are persistent just put them on ignore. Actually now that I think about it I made a macro to respond back that said something like, "Dear random noob, Thank you so much for your intense concern about how some random person you don't know chooses to spend their time. Your opinion is greatly valued! Unfortunately I don't have the ability to care right now, but please share your thoughts and concerns with Blizzard Entertainment. Have a great day!"

[Teslah]

I was there : ) Been hardware boxing since almost the beginning. I think I still have posts here from way early on.

It's different now. Never had multiple people call me out like the other day. Blizzard just emboldened people to unleash on multiboxers.

I'm using a warlock alt to summon to instances for the time being. It's too hot right now to be running around with 4 / 9 people on follow. So far so good with no more rage lol.

[nodoze]

-Software Unicasting to 1 client: Now Bannable because the software can be abused; ...

I agree that software unicasting can be problematic, and it can be abused. But I don't think we can make a blanket statement that software unicasting to 1 client is bannable. That would prohibit software like an on-screen keyboard from sending commands to a single client - that is still perfectly allowed. Similarly out-of-game macros that only send a single keystroke to a single client are also allowed.

From a multibox software perspective, I really like the approach that Lax is taking with the new Joe Multi-Boxer (JMB) software - that JMB will not send any commands to any clients. That's a great way to ensure that your product cannot be abused. But that's going beyond the requirement.

Sorry you missed my point as I wasn't as explicit as I could have been... I typed that under the context of the ToS change where it appears to be being interpreted as:

"The use of input broadcasting software that [can mirror] keystrokes to multiple WoW game clients will soon be considered an actionable offense."

I say that because multiple people have said they received warning for just having InnerSpace running in the background even without launching their WoW client(s) via InnerSpace... I adjusted that bullet to be clearer:

-Software Unicasting to 1 client via MultiCast capable software (or with it running in the background): Now Bannable because the software can be abused; ...

Under my intended point above your section in green would not be actionable as that software is not multicast capable.

Your section in orange would be actionable if that software is capable of Multicasting even if you are only using it for Unicasting... All Blizz would need to do is add it to the list of scannble processes...

The best answer to all of this would be for Blizz to just stop all the machinations and put the "1-1-1 rule" into the ToS and explicitly say something like:

"1 human input can only cause only 1 action in only 1 client (whether enabled via software or hardware)."

They could also say explicitly say something like: "Running input MultiCasting capable software that can mirror keystrokes to multiple WoW game clients while playing WoW will be considered an actionable offense even if not being used to MultiCast"

Agreed that Lax's skinny ISboxer replacement "Joe MultiBoxer" (JMB) is ideal in large part as it takes all casting out of the picture by mainly leverages fast focus switching and thus gets us to being in complaint with the "1-1-1 rule".

[Ellay]

Here is a video I put together, as I've been getting this question a lot on what I'm using. Hope it helps

[jak3676]

Love it - looking forward to part 2

[nodoze]

Here is a video I put together, as I've been getting this question a lot on what I'm using. Hope it helps

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I liked it alot and looking forward to part 2.

For those looking to replicate this hardware based key setup and hardware based key transmitting over KM switch(es), but don't want to buy 4 potato PCs, may want to look at Virtual Machines (VMs) or a Multiseat Configuration (MC) which should only cost between ~$170 to ~$400 depending on their current setup. It would look something like this:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...463#post433463

[EaTCarbS]

Just keep your eyes open for good deals.