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    great work!

    just ordered the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZSZFL8/ a few minutes ago - shipment to germany takes about 3-4 weeks -.-

    just to be clear, instead of upgrading my current system, I'll buy 4 x 250,-- workstations, spend them new graphic card (approx 150,-- Euro), and the only drawback I see are:

    - explaining to my wife why I need 4 more workstation ;-)
    - little more power consumption
    - and for now, in case I read over - no possibility to heal via mouse over + click in focus window

    Am I right?

    greetings

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    great work!

    just ordered the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZSZFL8/ a few minutes ago - shipment to germany takes about 3-4 weeks -.-

    just to be clear, instead of upgrading my current system, I'll buy 4 x 250,-- workstations, spend them new graphic card (approx 150,-- Euro), and the only drawback I see are:

    - explaining to my wife why I need 4 more workstation ;-)
    - little more power consumption
    - and for now, in case I read over it - now mouse over healing in focus window

    Am I right?

    greeting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goswin85 View Post
    great work!

    just ordered the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZSZFL8/ a few minutes ago - shipment to germany takes about 3-4 weeks -.-

    just to be clear, instead of upgrading my current system, I'll buy 4 x 250,-- workstations, spend them new graphic card (approx 150,-- Euro), and the only drawback I see are:

    - explaining to my wife why I need 4 more workstation ;-)
    - little more power consumption
    - and for now, in case I read over it - now mouse over healing in focus window

    Am I right?

    greeting
    I don't know what your current system and setup is but before buying 4 PCs and taking up all that space and electricity and heat I would look at something like the following which may only cost you ~$170 to ~$400 total (depending on your current setup):

    https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/57967-So-hardware-multiboxing?p=433463&viewfull=1#post433463

    Architecturally it virtually identical to Ellay's config and you are still leveraging hardware based keystroke casting but are doing it more cost effectively to VMs (actually virtual desktops) instead of physical PCs. Actually instead of VMs that leverages Virtual Desktops which are much easier to manage than full VMs (I think just 1 install of Windows etc)...
    Last edited by nodoze : 11-15-2020 at 09:11 AM

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    It would be interesting if ISBoxer lite could let you do something like displaying a portion of the healer's UI using isboxer, by using teamviewer or Parsec to view the healer's screen from your main computer.

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    • Software Unicasting to 1 client: Now Bannable because the software can be abused;
    I agree that software unicasting can be problematic, and it can be abused. But I don't think we can make a blanket statement that software unicasting to 1 client is bannable. That would prohibit software like an on-screen keyboard from sending commands to a single client - that is still perfectly allowed. Similarly out-of-game macros that only send a single keystroke to a single client are also allowed.

    From a multibox software perspective, I really like the approach that Lax is taking with the new Joe Multi-Boxer (JMB) software - that JMB will not send any commands to any clients. That's a great way to ensure that your product cannot be abused. But that's going beyond the requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    -Software Unicasting to 1 client: Now Bannable because the software can be abused; ...
    Quote Originally Posted by jak3676 View Post
    I agree that software unicasting can be problematic, and it can be abused. But I don't think we can make a blanket statement that software unicasting to 1 client is bannable. That would prohibit software like an on-screen keyboard from sending commands to a single client - that is still perfectly allowed. Similarly out-of-game macros that only send a single keystroke to a single client are also allowed.

    From a multibox software perspective, I really like the approach that Lax is taking with the new Joe Multi-Boxer (JMB) software - that JMB will not send any commands to any clients. That's a great way to ensure that your product cannot be abused. But that's going beyond the requirement.
    Sorry you missed my point as I wasn't as explicit as I could have been... I typed that under the context of the ToS change where it appears to be being interpreted as:

    "The use of input broadcasting software that [can mirror] keystrokes to multiple WoW game clients will soon be considered an actionable offense."

    I say that because multiple people have said they received warning for just having InnerSpace running in the background even without launching their WoW client(s) via InnerSpace... I adjusted that bullet to be clearer:
    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    -Software Unicasting to 1 client via MultiCast capable software (or with it running in the background): Now Bannable because the software can be abused; ...
    Under my intended point above your section in green would not be actionable as that software is not multicast capable.

    Your section in orange would be actionable if that software is capable of Multicasting even if you are only using it for Unicasting... All Blizz would need to do is add it to the list of scannble processes...

    The best answer to all of this would be for Blizz to just stop all the machinations and put the "1-1-1 rule" into the ToS and explicitly say something like:

    "1 human input can only cause only 1 action in only 1 client (whether enabled via software or hardware)."

    They could also say explicitly say something like: "Running input MultiCasting capable software that can mirror keystrokes to multiple WoW game clients while playing WoW will be considered an actionable offense even if not being used to MultiCast"

    Agreed that Lax's skinny ISboxer replacement "Joe MultiBoxer" (JMB) is ideal in large part as it takes all casting out of the picture by mainly leverages fast focus switching and thus gets us to being in complaint with the "1-1-1 rule".
    Last edited by nodoze : 11-15-2020 at 08:42 AM

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    Here is a video I put together, as I've been getting this question a lot on what I'm using. Hope it helps

    FFXIV - Aether - Sargatanas
    Twitch - https://twitch.tv/multidayz
    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/Multidayz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellay View Post
    Here is a video I put together, as I've been getting this question a lot on what I'm using. Hope it helps

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    I liked it alot and looking forward to part 2.

    For those looking to replicate this hardware based key setup and hardware based key transmitting over KM switch(es), but don't want to buy 4 potato PCs, may want to look at Virtual Machines (VMs) or a Multiseat Configuration (MC) which should only cost between ~$170 to ~$400 depending on their current setup. It would look something like this:

    https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...463#post433463
    Last edited by nodoze : 11-17-2020 at 06:00 AM

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    Love it - looking forward to part 2

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