Did Anyone Receive Warning for Using AutoHotKey/HotKeyNet ?

[cannon]

Just need to verify if using one of these to do tasks not related to broadcasting to multiple windows is ok or not.

[Apatheist]

Blizzard doesn't detect the software you're using (outside of known cheat processes.) They look at the behavior of your characters.

If you have multiple characters on follow, performing actions in a way that could potentially be key the result of any type of key broadcasting you're likely going to be banned.

Just using AHK/HKN for whatever reason on a single character won't be an issue (assuming whatever you're using them for wasn't an issue prior to the rule change.)

[cannon]

Blizzard doesn't detect the software you're using. They look at the behavior of your characters.

If you have multiple characters on follow, performing actions in a way that could potentially be key the result of any type of key broadcasting you're likely going to be banned.

Just using AHK/HKN for whatever reason on a single character won't be an issue (assuming whatever you're using them for wasn't an issue prior to the rule change.)

Is this backed by some official statement? I did contact a GM, asking if just using those features not related to key broadcasting is ok not. He said they were not informed of the details of the policy so wasn't sure about it. In another post, some people received warning for using isboxer even for the non key broadcasting features

One thing for sure is Blizzard does detect the software. Whether they will go ahead and take action just because of that is exactly what we want to figure out.


https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...l=1#post433088

[DGiraldo]

Blizzard doesn't detect the software you're using. They look at the behavior of your characters.

If you have multiple characters on follow, performing actions in a way that could potentially be key the result of any type of key broadcasting you're likely going to be banned.

Just using AHK/HKN for whatever reason on a single character won't be an issue (assuming whatever you're using them for wasn't an issue prior to the rule change.)

I would tend to agree as they would have to scan our personal PC/Computer and I assume that is highly illegal? I mean, how would they know if they didnt that it is just running in the background for window usage? Maybe I don't get it so please enlighten me.

[MadMilitia]

I would tend to agree as they would have to scan our personal PC/Computer and I assume that is highly illegal? I mean, how would they know if they didnt that it is just running in the background? Maybe I don't get it so please enlighten me.

They intentionally leave the door open so you'll buy their product. Make no mistake they are not fine with hardware multiplexing. They just don't say anything about it now reserving the right to declare it prohibited later.

Regardless of the addiction I strongly suggest not buying the product.

[Apatheist]

I would tend to agree as they would have to scan our personal PC/Computer and I assume that is highly illegal? I mean, how would they know if they didnt that it is just running in the background for window usage? Maybe I don't get it so please enlighten me.

Warden can detect system processes but neither ISBoxer or AHK are cheating software. 99% Of the bans people receive will be from people reporting multiboxing, not from them detecting software. Which is why I said there's no practical difference between software boxing and hardware boxing from the perspective of an observer. People will still be banned for it.

However, for single boxing, even if Warden does detect those processes and your account is automatically flagged/banned, it will be overturned when you appeal since you're only running one client. The only rule change is against broadcasting. If you're only running one client you obviously can't be broadcasting.

[cannon]

I would tend to agree as they would have to scan our personal PC/Computer and I assume that is highly illegal? I mean, how would they know if they didnt that it is just running in the background for window usage? Maybe I don't get it so please enlighten me.

Wrong, they have been scanning your PC all the time. A simple experiment, open this youtube video in Chrome while running wow. Your wow client will crash a few minute later (they're scanning your window title for sensitive keywords)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6mmkft2Qd4

[Apatheist]

Wrong, they have been scanning your PC all the time. A simple experiment, open this youtube video in Chrome while running wow. Your wow client will crash a few minute later (they're scanning your window title for sensitive keywords)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6mmkft2Qd4

Warden process detection is designed to detect cheats. Both ISBoxer and AHK are legitimate software that many people use for many reasons. I can't imagine Blizzard banning people simply for having those processes running in the background of a single client where there's clearly no broadcasting occurring.

Is this backed by some official statement?

No, but it makes sense. The rule change prohibits key broadcasting between clients. That's it. AHK and ISBoxer aren't cheats so why would they result in a ban?

Then again, maybe I'm making a mistake in assuming Blizzard still uses logic.

[nodoze]

Warden process detection is designed to detect cheats. Both ISBoxer and AHK are legitimate software that many people use for many reasons. I can't imagine Blizzard banning people simply for having those processes running in the background of a single client.

The jury is out on this.

There are multiple people in the ISboxer discord who have stated that after the ToS change they have only used WoW under InnerSpace/ISboxer without multiplexing/broadcasting (like just logging in alts to burn passive crafting cool-downs) yet have received warnings... There are others who have run WoW under InnerSpace just like normal (with broadcasting/multiplexing) and not received warnings (yet). There are others who are being very explicit with their testing of using InnerSpace with no multiplexing/broadcasting and no users around and so far have had no warnings...

I agree they shouldn't but Blizzard is lazy and it is far simpler to just warn/ban based on process scanning and the presence of the programs. More testing will give us more data points to get stronger correlation but Blizz can purposefully be selective in the warnings or the timings of their warning to try to hamper any analysis...

All that being said Bizz can change their methodology and/or enforcement at anytime without warning so I would act accordingly.

[spacer2]

Blizzard doesn't detect the software you're using (outside of known cheat processes.) They look at the behavior of your characters.

If you have multiple characters on follow, performing actions in a way that could potentially be key the result of any type of key broadcasting you're likely going to be banned.

Just using AHK/HKN for whatever reason on a single character won't be an issue (assuming whatever you're using them for wasn't an issue prior to the rule change.)

I used AHK for years on a single toon, one day i switched the version to the latest and banned in 24 hours, same for my son.
I had a complex rotation function in my script with also key repetition
This was 6 months ago

Probably at some point the started checking how the keypresses are coming to the WOW client