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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougn0782 View Post
    Looking for feedback on my plan before I dive in.
    5 Accts. 1 PC with 4 VMs.
    Planning on making Arduino keypads. Use USB filtering to send one keypad to each VM.

    Any reason this would not work. This should not be considered SW broadcasting at all of I am understanding the terms.
    I would have to understand a little more detail to give more advice but my initial thoughts are that you may want to go with 5 VMs if you go this route... I say that because your primary WoW client & Warden running on your VM host OS will then have full access to your VM host and be able to document your full setup from "underneath/behind" your VMs and use that against you...

    If your approach is anything like Wep's Launchpad approach (see diagram posted above) anything virtual is technically implemented in software and could be construed however Blizz wants to...

    I am not an expert in Adruinos nor the Launchpad but to me the following looks like it is probably software or implemented through software:

    • - MIDI Translator;
    • - rtpMIDI Network;
    • - MIDI channel;
    • - USB filtering;
    • - VMs;
    • - VM networks (VMnets);

    On a related note I also saw lots of people in the ISboxer discord saying Virtual Machines (VMs) were against the ToS but no one posted sources for that... I would like to understand the source for that before I invest in any VMs... My time is limited so if someone helps gather the info on Blizz's stance on VMs I would be happy to review it and weigh in but right now I don't have time to research that...

    At this point, unless I get more info, I am likely going with the following if I continue 5boxing:

    • - 1 main PC with 4 WoW clients for 4DPS (or Tank+3DPS) in quadrants with mouse-over &/or hotkey window switching;
    • - 2nd small PC with 1 WoW client for Healer with own keyboard/mouse and maybe some foot-pedals;

    I like this setup as it doesn't rely on much (if any) 3rd party software and could be done with regular standard hardware that I already have and would not need any multicasting of any keystrokes to be reasonably effective in 5boxing...

    Monitor-wise I will likely either do the 2nd PC as hot-key-able Picture-in-Picture on my 4K multi-input Dell Monitor (P4317Q) or a typically minimized remote control window (like via Remote Desktop Protocol or www.splashtop.com) or both...

    Keyboard/Mouse wise I will have separate dedicated keyboards/mice for both PCs but I may add a hardware USB switch to be able to turn on/off the parallel hardware USB replication of my main keyboard to the 2nd PC (not decided for sure yet as that is technically multicasting). If I do that I will make sure that any client key-binds on my healer are not shared with my Tank/DPS so there will never be any chance that one action by me will cause more than 1 action in 1 WoW client...

    For reference my main PC will likely work/function like this (except I would likely do 4 Hunters, PaladinTank+3Hunters, &/or PaladinTank+3Warlocks) in the quadrants:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UiGL_Phzsk

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504835144016986112/774276561359732787/IMG_9044.mov

    The reason why I picked these teams (4 Hunters, Paladin+3Hunters, &/or Paladin+3Warlocks) is because I want to be using a team that doesn't either need multicasting 1 input to multiple wow clients nor require tons of keystrokes/mouse movements (Actions per Minute) to be effective (I have carpel tunnel and neck and back injuries). If you are interested in more detail there is more discussion regarding why those teams here:

    https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...st-multiboxing
    Last edited by nodoze : 11-07-2020 at 02:56 PM

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    So you could not do 1 PC w/ 4 Linux VMs and VPNs on each with lets say your keyboard only working on the main screen and then have something like a Tartarus connected to the 4, VMs because Warden will see what you are doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurkis493 View Post
    So you could not do 1 PC w/ 4 Linux VMs and VPNs on each with lets say your keyboard only working on the main screen and then have something like a Tartarus connected to the 4, VMs because Warden will see what you are doing?
    I don't know that we know for sure to say one way or the other...

    If you are 5boxing and your 4 are following your main and all fireing at the same time you could well be setting yourself up for action. They can tell that you are in party together and looking like a bot or boxer regardless of how you VPNed to get there.

    It is clear that they don't want any automation and that they now want 1 human input causing only 1 action in 1 client (not multiple clients). If you do it and it is hardware based then you may be OK based on the current policy wording focusing on software... You could maybe make it separate inputs by using different keybinds in each client such that any one key only causes an action in 1 client.

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    Yeah I was thinking, healing off the mouse like I do currently. Then having 1-9 my tank and then 1-9 the 3 DPS all using their own modifiers like ctrl, shift and alt.

    I use the thumb stick on the Tartarus for modifiers so easy for me.

    I'd also just hide in instances to reduce exposure. Would never multi-box open world.
    Last edited by Kurkis493 : 11-08-2020 at 02:49 AM

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    Here is an example of someone 5boxing paladin+3Mage+Priest on 1 single PC with no extra 3rd party software:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B45FL6aOT7k

    I may try that instead of the 4 quadrant approach on 1 PC with the healer on the 2nd PC and see how it goes. I have carpul tunnel so I am going to try to use the mouse-over feature that makes a given window be in the foreground when you are over it rather than clicking on each window like he is.
    Last edited by nodoze : 11-08-2020 at 03:14 AM

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