https://milosophical.me/blog/2010/03...try-hacks.html posted in another thread, but I want to keep all the ideas for no-broadcast multiboxing here.
I'll have to dig for the Blizzard link later, but I think the discord is incorrect about VM's being banned. I've never seen any source of that - if someone has a source, I'd love to see it. What Blizz did clarify a while ago was that online cloud hosting services were not allowed
Last edited by jak3676 : 11-07-2020 at 12:50 PM
Thanks. I think that is similar/related to one of the ideas I saw in Discord and I copied the pics from the registry changes required. As I see ideas/tidbits from discussions in discord or other places I have been putting them here:Originally Posted by jak3676
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1566844114
If/when I have time I will revisit each and clean up the copy/paste and maybe add more info on some...
Nodoze. Really appreciate the detailed write up!!
one PC running 5 clients is not one I want to try because I feel it requires some level of SW broadcasting to be efficient enough.
i also though about building 4 low end PCs and networking it. But then if a ban happens I have 4 crappy PCs that are wasted.
I think I will try the VM approach so I won’t need any form of SW broadcasting.
Thanks and glad to help where I can.
Actually you can run 4 clients pretty efficiently on 1 PC with no 3rd party software, no SW nor HW broadcasting, and no multicasting of 1 input to more than 1 client at a time.
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UiGL_Phzsk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7/IMG_9044.mov
The above 4 quadrant setup should work fine for 4DPS or Tank+3DPS and then you could put the Healer in a VM or a 2nd PC with a 2nd keyboard/keypad/foot-pedals/etc so you can spam heals if/when needed without any broadcasting nor multi-casting.
In the .mov example he is doing pretty continuous RR of 4 mages doing Arcane Explosions... He isn't even clicking on anything or using any keystrokes as just putting the mouse over the game client makes it the active window and his mouse wheel spins are initiating the Arcane Explosions.
4 Hunters or Tank+Hunters would also work well as the hunters just need brief focus to send pet (if not set to aggressive) and start auto-shot and periodically revisit to burn though all mana... Could then spend the rest of the time driving from your tank if you have one.
Personally I want to try Paladin+3Warlocks as the Warlocks just need a mouse-over and 1 button every 15 seconds to keep up HellFire and the Paladin can Tank unlimited targets fine with just a mouse over every 8-10 seconds to refresh Consecration & Holy Shield. I may try to make HellFires trigger from mouse-wheel-spin for ease.
Last edited by nodoze : 11-07-2020 at 08:15 PM
Love it! Any details on the hardware setup behind both of these? Just a single keyboard & mouse with 4 clients running on a single PC? How are you doing the 4-windows on the monitor? (is that native on the 43" multiclient monitor?)
We literally just finished moving the 43" Dell from our "kid office" to my office and am working on configuring it now so I haven't been able test much yet. Currently the 43" is just VGA at 1080P via my KVM to my VPN-work-laptop, an extra/old PC, and my main gaming/personal PC. I just finished installing WoW on the old/extra PC so I could put my healer there and now I am going to work on getting the dell management software installed on my main PC and see if I can use hot-keys to switch from 1K VGA to 4K DP when on my main PC. After I make sure I have it to where I can switch back and forth with my work laptop (I get calls 24x7 and need to be able to help the users quickly) and understand the monitor utilities/switching I will work on the personal PC stuff and try to replicate the quadrant setup...
Those 2 quadrant examples were not mine but rather 2 other boxers who were using native windows 10 functionality (if I understand correctly) to do the 4 quadrant setup...
To do the 4 quadrant setup that way I think it is just a single monitor with windows 10 accessibility (ease of access) setting for mouse over window functionality (and a registry adjustment for timing and reboot) and then setting some windows management "snapping" features to make the 4 windows stick/size to the 4 quadrants.
I snagged the steps as best I could and put them on the 'noBroadcast' tab of the 'Classic WoW Planning' spreadsheet. Once I get through the steps and test/validate them I will try to clean them up and maybe have a mini-guide or something. I went and just now hi-lighted in cyan/light-blue on the 'noBroadcast' tab the steps I think need to be done to do the quadrant setup in case you want to try them before I can get to them.
Last edited by nodoze : 11-07-2020 at 08:18 PM
Never thought about using my launchpads this way! I also have midi translator!
Think I'm going to give this a go as I instantly have all kinds of ideas!
Thanks nodoze!
I have been multiboxing a team of 5, warrior/priest/mage/mage/warlock for about a year in Classic and have cleared every 5-man with it including some raids with my guild, just to fill up the lack of people.
I do use hotkeynet to broadcast only hotkeys, not mouse, I use a lot of ingame macro's and addons (leatirix), most hotkeys having overlapping abilities or macro's on the characters. I play fullscreen on the warrior and don't see the others at all, i assisgned hotkeys to quickly bring each character's screen as the active screen.
The way i play, bloodthirst or a heroic strike would also do a fireball from the mage, and shadowbolt from the warlock, these are bound to the same hotkey ingame. When i started out, this would also cast a heal on the tank, this resulted in me running out of mana too fast and way too many unnecessary heals. So separate hotkeys for the healing were born.
However the better I got, the more i got to lean to 1 action per keystroke when doing the rotation for dps as well. There are so many cases I don't want my characters to cast the things that I bound to the keys doing the overlapping spells. For example, mages are out of mana and need to evocate, while the warlock can still cast shadowbolts. Or the warlock has to lifetap and the mages need to keep shooting. So these all got their own keybinds as well.
So I really wouldn't mind doing the same with all spells from each character on a seperate keybind, it would even add flexibility, i'd need to do just a bit more typing though. So i would send part of my keyboard to WoW1, another few keys will always go to WoW2 etcetera.
I know how to configure this in Hotkeynet, and would not be using any broadcasting at all anymore, however, it appears the entire program is blacklisted.
- Is there any other way to basically split your keyboard over the wow instances?
- Is there any alternative for the following hotkeynet script: (it eliminates the alt-tabbing)
<Hotkey F8>
<SendPC local>
<TargetWin WoW1>
<SetActiveWin>
<Hotkey F9>
<SendPC local>
<TargetWin WoW2>
<SetActiveWin>
etc
I read that windowskey-1 works, but i really need it to be one key dediced to each character.
The only ways I can think of are as follows:
5 numberkeypads (without the wooden dowels) with each one connecting via USB to a single WoW client in a dedicated PC or VM (but these would give you a limited number of keybinds):
https://i.gyazo.com/79ec17ce563426d0...55ea1547d3.png
If you needed more keybinds than can fit on the 10keypads you could do something like 5 of these (each mapped to a PC/VM):
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B074SGZ6Z4
https://smile.amazon.com/Koolertron-.../dp/B076LRJ528
(you could velcro multiple of these or the 10keypads to a single lapboard)
If you wanted to try to do it all from one keyboard you will likely have to use some software based routing like depicted here using something like a Launchpad or an Elgato:
Diagram of a Launchpad approach (with rtpMIDI and Bomes Midi Translator) and VMs:
https://i.gyazo.com/ab172a7a596229d8...02fe12a6a5.png
Lastly you could maybe build a hardware based single-frankenstein-keyboard via Arduinos that outputs specific keys to specific destinations.
Last edited by nodoze : 11-07-2020 at 10:08 PM
So you could not do 1 PC w/ 4 Linux VMs and VPNs on each with lets say your keyboard only working on the main screen and then have something like a Tartarus connected to the 4, VMs because Warden will see what you are doing?
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