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  1. #111

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    this wont solve the botting problem, bots will still auto farm just like the multbox botters farming dungeons... they only hit us with it and most if not all the multiboxer i know dont engauge pvp combat.

  2. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creed820 View Post
    Thanks for your amazing input. I'll just assume you're a quitter who's still crying about the loss of his easy button. I'm not, I'm looking for other options.

    (snip)

    Obviously there were hardware options before, whether it was multiple pc's or just one. Any well-versed boxers out there willing to shed some knowledge?
    Why would someone help you when you're attacking people for being bothered for feeling like they've had the rug pulled out from under them? Figure it out yourself since you seem to be bothered by someone else wanting an "easy button."

    On a different note, I was screwing around today with a pure hardware solution (worked pretty well, though not nearly as seamlessly as ISBoxer), and in about 10 minutes I got 4-5 people whispering at me that they've reported me for boxing which is a substantial uptick compared to the usual. I haven't gotten a ban or warning from Blizzard, but given that it's only been an hour or two, I wouldn't put much stock in that.

  3. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin View Post
    The maximum number of characters per user account is 50. Players used to have a limit to the amount of characters per realm but can now create their 50 characters all on one realm if they wish.

    And tranfer is on discount right now.....
    What? Transfers between accounts are not allowed in Classic. I guess you are talking about Retail.

  4. #114

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    Huge thanks to Lax, Mirai, all of the content creators, and other boxers.

    I'll stay tuned and play around for workarounds but over all its been great. I prefer to do content alone so this is a great avenue for me. What started as a 3 account alt+tab gold making nightmare became an 8x toon dream filled with Raiding, M+, World PVP, and farming (and one extra account for doing AH). In March I quit a semi-hardcore Mythic Raid guild/team to focus on boxing and 28 days later I had a long boi.

    Thankfully being retired military I have a lot of time and I didn't spend a dime on accounts 5-9, any subs for over a year, or expansions. I remain optimistic with requests for SL refunds (back to my BNET Balance of course), as well as transference of game time to my primary account.

  5. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantao View Post
    Huge thanks to Lax, Mirai, all of the content creators, and other boxers.

    I'll stay tuned and play around for workarounds but over all its been great. I prefer to do content alone so this is a great avenue for me. What started as a 3 account alt+tab gold making nightmare became an 8x toon dream filled with Raiding, M+, World PVP, and farming (and one extra account for doing AH). In March I quit a semi-hardcore Mythic Raid guild/team to focus on boxing and 28 days later I had a long boi.

    Thankfully being retired military I have a lot of time and I didn't spend a dime on accounts 5-9, any subs for over a year, or expansions. I remain optimistic with requests for SL refunds (back to my BNET Balance of course), as well as transference of game time to my primary account.
    Same here, thanks Lax, Mirai, Ellay/multidayz, Sirscruffington, Jabberie and a few others that litterally brought me into multiboxing.

    Would love some post as an update on which game will isboxer 2 focus now that WoW is not in the line of sight anymore, and I guess I'm not the only one to wait for your next step, a lot of us will probably move with you guys.

  6. #116

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    The Real Reason for this policy change:

    It’s not because of bots, it’s not because of the rise in solo-player hate, it’s not because of the WoW economy, nor is it because of their desire as developers to create enjoyable solo content without the pressures of multi-boxing benefits.

    Plain and simple, it’s for the subs. Their data-analysis team did the math and realized that the sheer amount of players paying for game time and other services with gold is their largest deficit. Too many people are “technically” playing for free. Blizz makes most of its revenue through subs.

    Even if every multi-boxer was refunded for every pre-purchased Shadowlands and canceled all our subs, whether we payed real money or not, Blizzard would still come out making more in the long run when new and old players come back for SL launch paying with real $. It’s the same reason why they took action against the Gallywix discord. Too much gold being made. ActiBlizz wants Tokens to be unobtainable to most.

    This is why I’m going to continue multi-boxing in spite, and continue paying for game time with gold. I’ll find a way around it without violating ToS.
    Last edited by Renwyk : 11-04-2020 at 05:52 PM

  7. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renwyk View Post
    The Real Reason for this policy change:

    It’s not because of bots, it’s not because of the rise in solo-player hate, it’s not because of the WoW economy, nor is it because of their desire as developers to create enjoyable solo content without the pressures of multi-boxing benefits. Plain and simple, it’s for the subs. Their data-analysis team did the math and realized that the sheer amount of players paying for game time and other services with gold is their largest deficit. Too many people are “technically” playing for free. Blizz makes most of its revenue through subs. Even if every multi-boxer was refunded for every pre-purchased Shadowlands and canceled all our subs, whether we payed real money or not, Blizzard would still come out making more in the long run when new and old players come back for SL launch paying with real $. It’s the same reason why they took action against the Gallywix discord. Too much gold being made. ActiBlizz wants Tokens to be unobtainable to most.

    This is why I’m going to continue multi-boxing in spite, and continue paying for game time with gold. I’ll find a way around it without violating ToS.
    Look up here: https://wowtokenprices.com/extended-history

    2017 was HB, most commonly and widely known bot was at its peak, tokens costed a lot.

    September 2018, HB shut down, look the impact on the tokens...

    Now you will have a before and after November 2020, plain and simple.

    Tokens price are related to demand. When heavy charge of multiboxers were playing, token would yield/cost 200k golds. When no multiboxers, I guess they will drop below 100k.

  8. #118

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    I am encouraged by people requesting refunds and getting them. Voting with our wallets is our only option. Perhaps that is why they issued that clarification about "multi-boxing" not being banned https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/24258

    That update to their support article, at least for me, shows that Blizzard is conflating multi-account players with multi-boxing. But lets be honest, they can say multi-boxing is not banned, but by banning the software they are in effect banning multi-boxing, while begging all the multi-account holders not to stop spending money.

    Perhaps Blizzard will reverse themselves on the software ban if this change has no effect on the bot problem and they lose enough subscriptions. But knowing now that they are willing to ban it if they feel justified, even a reinstatement in the future will hold the specter of future bans.
    Last edited by Peri Helion : 11-04-2020 at 06:10 PM

  9. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renwyk View Post
    The Real Reason for this policy change:

    It’s not because of bots, it’s not because of the rise in solo-player hate, it’s not because of the WoW economy, nor is it because of their desire as developers to create enjoyable solo content without the pressures of multi-boxing benefits.

    Plain and simple, it’s for the subs. Their data-analysis team did the math and realized that the sheer amount of players paying for game time and other services with gold is their largest deficit. Too many people are “technically” playing for free. Blizz makes most of its revenue through subs.

    Even if every multi-boxer was refunded for every pre-purchased Shadowlands and canceled all our subs, whether we payed real money or not, Blizzard would still come out making more in the long run when new and old players come back for SL launch paying with real $. It’s the same reason why they took action against the Gallywix discord. Too much gold being made. ActiBlizz wants Tokens to be unobtainable to most.

    This is why I’m going to continue multi-boxing in spite, and continue paying for game time with gold. I’ll find a way around it without violating ToS.
    Talking about things I have no direct knowledge of - so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Blizzard make more cash off of gold players than they do off of paid subs? In order for you to buy a token with gold, someone had to buy that token for real money (and at an inflated rate), then sell it for in game gold? I have never bought tokens, so I could be wrong.

  10. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braxtar View Post
    Look up here: https://wowtokenprices.com/extended-history

    2017 was HB, most commonly and widely known bot was at its peak, tokens costed a lot.

    September 2018, HB shut down, look the impact on the tokens...

    Now you will have a before and after November 2020, plain and simple.

    Tokens price are related to demand. When heavy charge of multiboxers were playing, token would yield/cost 200k golds. When no multiboxers, I guess they will drop below 100k.
    The 2018 Token price drop was in August right before BFA launch.

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