Change in multiboxing policy

[nodoze]

He does not disagree with this, neither do I. Where I, and I assume Pocahuntesss, disagree with Jak3676 is in just having it installed is an actionable offense, this is completely untrue.
Yes Blizzard can detect it if it is a running process and can then action your account because they will detect the prohibited software. But just having it installed and NOT running they cannot (or at least SHOULD not) be able to see this as that is a giant breech of privacy. That's like saying they can see all my nudes just because its "installed" on my hard drive. It's completely wrong.
Saying just having innerspace installed and is detecable without being a running process and therefore actionable IS misinformation. You do NOT need to uninstall innerspace to keep playing WoW. You DO need to make sure it is closed and NOT a running process to keep playing wow without getting actioned.

I don't know about that. I also don't rely on SHOULD as we know what companies like Google have done.

I do know that if you only use InnerSpace for MultiBoxing WoW there is no reason to keep InnerSpace installed and I would uninstall it (in fact I already did).

If I decide to use InnerSpace for other games in the meantime while all this is sorting out I will use Innerspace on a totally separate computer that does not have any WoW clients installed. It is not worth the risk to me that:

• - I accidentally get InnerSpace set to Auto-Start, &/or
• - I accidentally forget to shut InnerSpace down when I switch to play WoW, &/or
• - I accidentally start InnerSpace up while I am playing WoW, &/or
• - I accidentally start WoW up while I am playing a different game under InnerSpace, &/or
• - I accidentally forget to stop InnerSpace after I finish playing and go to bed...

The risk is absolutely not worth it to me and I don't like having to worry about what is running or not running all the time when trying to take a break and have some fun and switch back and forth between games...

I am looking forward to a new "skinny" version of ISboxer/InnerSpace that is named/seperate (like the proposed JMB) and approved by Blizzard.

[mds0001]

Hang on.... what if i f.ex play some accounts and change every action in isboxer to be sent "round robin" instead....... i could see myself playing 3 accounts like this.

"We will soon begin issuing warnings to all players who are detected using input broadcasting software to mirror commands to multiple accounts at the same time (often used for multi-boxing)" = doesnt affect round robin??

I thought of that, from the spirit of the blue post, that might be possible?

[jak3676]

Yes, from a "spirit of the law" perspective some sort of round-robin approach is fine. The only issue is that you cannot use ISBoxer to do that as they seem to be issuing warning for any use of software associated with multiboxing.

There are other ways to implement a round-robin type approach though - read the bottom 1/2 of this thread if you haven't already. https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/...tiboxing/page2

[woloss]

Well, I got ban on 3 accs on 1 bnet due to Economy Exploitation. Played just on 2 since limit (did 8 boxing too, but just with "Veteran" accs, so no trade at all). Played with ISBoxer injected to game last time in February 2020.
I don't know wtf actually.

[Purpleflavor]

Well, I got ban on 3 accs on 1 bnet due to Economy Exploitation. Played just on 2 since limit (did 8 boxing too, but just with "Veteran" accs, so no trade at all). Played with ISBoxer injected to game last time in February 2020.
I don't know wtf actually.

not even clear on what you're trying to say, but ok.

I've boxed for a decade and last used ISBoxer/innerspace with WoW on the day of the ToS change, and i haven't gotten any warning or bans on any of my accounts. No email, nothing. I even had ISBoxer in my Addons the first time i logged into WoW after the ToS change because i forgot to remove it before going to character select and just clicked it off.

I'm also going to run ISBoxer/Innerspace tomorrow during the Diablo 3 season 22 release. Wondering if warden will care if i use it for other Blizzard games, but i guess i'll see.

[woloss]

not even clear on what you're trying to say, but ok.

True, well, gonna submit a ticket and just wait.

I've boxed for a decade and last used ISBoxer/innerspace with WoW on the day of the ToS change, and i haven't gotten any warning or bans on any of my accounts. No email, nothing. I even had ISBoxer in my Addons the first time i logged into WoW after the ToS change because i forgot to remove it before going to character select and just clicked it off.

They should be able to check if you launched game via ISBoxer or not. So, must be fine to play even with innerspace in background, but no one knows.

[jak3676]

Has anyone received a ban for something that seems to be related to input broadcasting software yet? I think they're still just doing warnings. There's been lots of discussions about some recent bans in discord, but the only bans posted were for "Abuse of the Economy" (aka Real Money Trading - buying or selling gold). I don't think its correct to assume that's somehow related to this policy change or ISBoxer usage.

*edit*
This was posted in the TSM discord - from someone who claims he was continuing to use HKN, but that he had disabled broadcasting. I don't know enough about bans to know if this is what the new "software broadcasting" bans look like, or if this is the same old "botting" ban that they've had for years.

https://gyazo.com/63e109fa35dfe4a12530be1bf772c61d

[woloss]

Has anyone received a ban for something that seems to be related to input broadcasting software yet? I think they're still just doing warnings. There's been lots of discussions about some recent bans in discord, but the only bans posted were for "Abuse of the Economy" (aka Real Money Trading - buying or selling gold). I don't think its correct to assume that's somehow related to this policy change or ISBoxer usage.

Sorry, didn't find out [spoiler] tag, due to 4K have only such big image. Well, idk, pretty fast transition from "Economy Exploitation" to "Boxing related reason", on 2nd ticket.

UPD #1: Just found out this - https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...ns-have-begun/. Sadly, real RMT boys like that 107x boxer from Twitch won't get ban.

UPD #2: "Greetings, This penalty has already been reviewed and upheld. Any further requests on this topic will not be reviewed."
I guess, due to one more ticket i'll get ban for all 8 wow accounts on bnet instead of current 3, soon

[Brandish]

Refunds for SL pre-purchase are in progress.

They are refusing to refund game time.

What sort of refunds have people gotten for game time? Support is claiming they can't refund the 6 months sub purchase because it has been partially used, and also claiming they cannot refund partial amounts.

I have an account with 5 months of time on it, and several with 3 months of time remaining. I will have zero accounts active.

Thanks

[woloss]

They are refusing to refund game time.

What sort of refunds have people gotten for game time? Support is claiming they can't refund the 6 months sub purchase because it has been partially used, and also claiming they cannot refund partial amounts.

I have an account with 5 months of time on it, and several with 3 months of time remaining. I will have zero accounts active.

The only way to do so, merge game time to one wow account. They won't refund real money for partially used time for sure. (usually you can refund within 2-3d max)