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    Hey guys been boxing since Burning Crusade and while we all deal with the hate on an almost daily basis towards Multiboxing...
    What the fudge has been going on with the official WoW forums the last 3 months?

    Seem's every day several threads with a pitchforked mob demanding our playstyle be removed from game, what's with this surge in hate?
    Some seem to confuse boxing and botting but there is definitely a large surge towards Boxing specifically.

    I realise you cannot educate certain people, hate is gonna hate however I don't get this uptake in hate? What's changed?

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    Blizz failed game design that came with 8.3 - Small zone to farm Zin'anthid - 10 druid emty notes - powerfull Alchemy ToT. Most people only goes to Nazjatar to farm so more farmers are put in same phase/shard = less resources for everyone.
    Now some says that it´s the multiboxers fault the prices is low = End of exp. and everyone is unloading, working from home and the hunt for the Dino.
    Last edited by Tin : 08-03-2020 at 08:15 AM
    Eonar - EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny_d View Post
    Some seem to confuse boxing and botting
    imho because the difference between "standstill farming" and "afk farming" is 1 autofire macro and both look the exact same to anyone else looking at it.

    Hell, even Standstill and AFK are used by players and multiboxers alike as interchangable terms. They are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberie View Post
    imho because the difference between "standstill farming" and "afk farming" is 1 autofire macro and both look the exact same to anyone else looking at it.

    Hell, even Standstill and AFK are used by players and multiboxers alike as interchangable terms. They are not.
    Agreed.
    Big part of those misconceptions is that afk-like farming that boxers are doing - a large portion of it actually streaming it to the world too which does not help at all.


    Blizz failed game design that came with 8.3 - Small zone to farm Zin'anthid - 10 druid emty notes - powerfull Alchemy ToT. Most people only goes to Nazjatar to farm so more farmers are put in same phase/shard = less resources for everyone.
    That's not the issue.

    The concept of "always increasing numbers", be it itemization, currency or character abilities is a core issue of modern MMOGs and leads to an endless spiral of inflation of the own systems.

    Combine that with the ultimate farming reward to extend your subscription for free by playing the game is just plain stupid and leads to the current situation.
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    There are now 3+ hate threads on the first page in the General Discussion Forum EU.
    It's always about herbalism/gathering and instanced pvp.


    If this continues I think we will see some new restrictions for multiboxing or something even worse....

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    After patch 8.3 did hit, several threads are made -almost a new one is made daylig, something you did not see before.

    My guess after following wow forum and WoW Economy:
    7 out of 10 complains - Is 10 druids sucking notes clean in Nazjatar.
    2,5 out of 10 complains - 2x4 farming
    0.5 out of 10 complains - Pvp related + software we use

    And now that we a close to the end of this exp. and raid for most are over and herb/flask prices is down, people are moving to raw gold farming to get gold for the 5 mill Dino.
    5 out of 10 complains - Is 10 druids sucking notes clean in Nazjatar.
    4 out of 10 complains - 2x4 farming with now add disrupting zone - can`t do quest
    1 out of 10 complains - Pvp related + software we use

    And before changes to follow in pvp and WM introduction.
    9 out of 10 complains - Pvp related
    1 out of 10 complains -
    Last edited by Tin : 08-04-2020 at 03:32 AM
    Eonar - EU

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    It's funny the player base blames multiboxers. The AFK and Standstill farmers both claim it's blizzards fault they're grinding so hard to get the 5 million gold bruto mount.

    As usual, the typical multiboxer gets caught in the middle. What I feel is important for people to remember is it's *always* been like this. People have always, and will always hate on multiboxers and not understand it.


    IMHO Ultimately we the multiboxing community have to be the examples for others to make up for the bad actors. This is also how it's *always* been. If you've been around here long enough you'll know we've had to throw out some of these bad actors from the community. It's also important to remember while we are the multiboxing community, there is more than one multiboxing community. It's not just limited to this site. Or ISBoxer forums, or even DB discord and ISB discord. We are represented by them, and are representative of them in the same way. We have to lead by example.

    I've dipped my toe in some stand still farming to see what the fuss is about. It's neat. It's boring as hell and I have no idea *why* people would spend hours and hours doing it, but that's not for me to understand.

    I still feel strongly that people multiboxing 20+ accounts to standstill farms are doing more harm than good to the overall community. They're the ones disrupting zones by tagging all the mobs or making it impossible to quest, or running around killing everyone in sight in world PvP. If you're out there running your own 2x4 team more power to you. But if you're having to fight someone running two, three, or four times the number of toons it's just silly. It comes down to greed and narcissism. As much fun as it is to watch 20 toons destroy people coming in one at a time to run a dungeon I remember what it's like to be the solo character and it sucks.

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    Some really interesting talking point's , glad i brought it up.

    I do worry that Blizzard may cave in soon to the public pressure and restrict boxing, though trying to gauge if it's the same small band of no life's on the official forums making the situation seem worse than the general perception? The hate I receive in game has increased massively, I was even ousted from what I thought was a really tight guild in Classic just because a core group of 5/6 people didn't understand multiboxing (though they were fine with it when it helped them out odd eh?).

    Just noticing a shift in game and yer I do wonder if things might change again for us as a community.

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    totally agree that massive mboxer are causing harm to the community
    and again I would totally be fine with a limit to 5x (at a time/in party + maybe 1 or 2 AH folks) but maybe it's because I'm mostly a 5 boxer; in exchange for follow back in all pvp for instance
    (I suppose a 5 boxer complaining about a 40 boxer is the same as a solo complaining about a 5 boxer? jealousy?...)
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    I hope blizzard doesn't restrict multiboxing, but I feel like they might try to do something to prevent the massive multiboxers from playing.

    Maybe something along the lines of restricting /follow and/or /assist to one battlenet, or a cap on the number of toons following/assisting another.

    If they remove follow and assist altogether, that totally kills boxing for me.

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