If you're actively playing your characters, like literally looking at them, you're not getting suspended for this shit. youtubers/streamers are not getting suspended live because they are doing just that, playing the game. A shit way the play the game but still playing the game none the less.

There are "laws". Don't bot.

How many people slowly graduate from carple tunnel smaking the keyboard to a hold macro on their mouse to a full on toggle macro to his their favourite one button keybind to then putting their netflix above wow?

As for the HKN thing, the reason you don't hear about them anymore is because that got overturned as a mistake. . . Sure there was outrage at the start but I know loads that had their ban overturned. Some without even making an appeal.

Again, they don't suspend/ban people for stand still farms, they nerf the locations down into the ground most of the time to make them worthless. GM spy on you all the time, if you've managed to piss enough people off to get you reported. At which point you're put under a microscope pretty much.

So unless you're doing bad shit, you've nothing to worry about. I've played the game since 2007 and have never felt in any danger at all with how I play it.

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Sorry but to me this seems like a contradiction. What "limits" should we not be pushing? Are you talking limits in stand still farming, no farming certain spots, not farming for a certain amount of time, not farming if there is a WQ active, what is it? What does "dont be an a-hole" mean? I know there are youtubers and streamers that show off these stand still farms for primals, volatiles, xmog, mounts, so to me if people are quietly getting banned it's even worse letting big names do it on stream but then quietly banning a "nobody" for doing the same thing.

If they banned a streamer/youtuber for afk farming it would spark a huge debate on the forums about what is different between multiboxing vs. 2x4 farming, suddenly non-multiboxers playstyles would be threatened as well, it would be a massive, massive mess for Blizzard. So the fact that certain streamers merely exist is NOT evidence that this playstyle is accepted by Blizzard.<br><br>If there are certain laws or absolutes we're not allowed to break, I sure wish I knew them. For example I like farming pets and transmog, am I breaking some imaginary rule? I really, really don't know, that is what people are upset about.&nbsp;And when reports trickle in that someone got banned, for me at least, its even worse. What if 20 people were banned for the same thing on the same day? You would never know, would you?

And if that's the reality that we live in, where it's possible to be banned for rules we're not allowed to know, then new people should know that too. Because it's innocent enough to watch someone on youtube show you how to park toons and farm transmog/primals fast, but nobody would do that if they knew they could get banned for it



To be honest, if 20 people rushed to the forums claiming they were banned for a certain reason *cough HKN a few weeks ago* then it would be an early warning to others who maybe hadn't logged on that day, that, for some unknown reason, MANY veteran accounts are reporting bans on the same day for ______ reason. I'm sure one could draw some parallels from that.

The same could be said now or in the future for afk farms. It's gotta be a matter of when, not if, that they just keep banning people 1 by 1 for overfarming an area. What prompts it, is it 10 randoms reporting them, is it a GM spying, is it just bad luck on a bad day?

Sorry if this came out aggressive, I do understand why you keep things a certain way. I do feel "Uncertain" on the rules of the game though and I had to get it out there. For now with this uncertainty, I try to "play the game" as good a boxer as I can - world quests for emissaries, gathering, playing the AH. No more stand still farms because I simply don't know.