New limit of 30 instances per day on top of 5 per hour...

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'm not a fan of Asmon but he makes some good points at times.

[nodoze]

I'm not a fan of Asmon but he makes some good points at times.

Thanks for sharing. His posts under this account seem more mature and reasoned than the streaming related ones.

[Purpleflavor]

They just banned 74,000 classic bot accounts.

74,000

bots

wow

[Acidburning]

there is a weak aura for tracking if you need:

https://wago.io/1Zqr-ccR4

[Moorea]

One solution would be:

- spin off classic as a separate IP/company (so you can't use bnet $ credit to pay for sub)
- pay for classic game $40 (so each time a bot gets banned, it cost them $40 to get back on)
- require auth, maybe US phone number for US region
- $15/month sub (so a bot cost $40+$15)
- ban faster

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...e-money/561107

[nodoze]

Hire a few expert botters, if necessary as independent contractors, who are in the know on the forums, tools, tricks and what not and then put in place auto-ban detection systems with some anti-cheat software. Those "now white hats" can remain "undercover" and in the cheating/botting community to help keep up with the adaption over time.

Also get more GMs and/or recruit some customer relations folk in game that can issue bans.

[jak3676]

Probably obvious by this point, but I can confirm the 30 instance/account/realm/day is tied to your WoW account, not your BNet account. I hit the instance cap with 1 of my toons, but was able to keep going with the other 4 just fine.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Probably obvious by this point, but I can confirm the 30 instance/account/realm/day is tied to your WoW account, not your BNet account. I hit the instance cap with 1 of my toons, but was able to keep going with the other 4 just fine.

Good data. Thanks!

[The Crowd]

GM’s never ever banned botters, even back in the day. You would flag them as such and forward them on to accounts/Billings. Who could take anywhere between a week to a month to get through the backlog. With the report system all that’s happened is accounts get flagged by random players and sent to accounts/Billings as well. Exact same chain. The only difference is we only flagged accounts we observed botting where modern players spam report everything. Don’t like someone’s tactic in pvp, report. Guild member got the loot you want, report. Someone got to a mining node/rare before you... report.
this creates soooo freaking many false flags that have to be gone through. I mean if people actually used to report function for what it’s meant for... then it would work the exact same as it used to work in vanilla/tbc.

[Mercbeast]

GM’s never ever banned botters, even back in the day. You would flag them as such and forward them on to accounts/Billings. Who could take anywhere between a week to a month to get through the backlog. With the report system all that’s happened is accounts get flagged by random players and sent to accounts/Billings as well. Exact same chain. The only difference is we only flagged accounts we observed botting where modern players spam report everything. Don’t like someone’s tactic in pvp, report. Guild member got the loot you want, report. Someone got to a mining node/rare before you... report.
this creates soooo freaking many false flags that have to be gone through. I mean if people actually used to report function for what it’s meant for... then it would work the exact same as it used to work in vanilla/tbc.

GM's definitely used to ban botters. I know a guy who got banned running wow glider back in 2005, while he was at his computer. GM PM'd him, he shit himself when the GM alert warning sounded like an air raid siren in his house. He responded. GM said "you're botting", and he got banned. Now? Their MO on how to handle botting has changed. Not sure when it changed, but I know it changed.