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    Tank
    It seems that Pally will be unanimous due to being a Tank/Support and more fun. Prot Pally will have 3 heals. Covenant ability is meh.

    Brewmaster is tempting due to full defense, absorb, touch of death and Covenant ability

    More info
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZyKOz3JJM


    DPS
    3 Hunters will still most likely be the choice for mechanics and arrow shower is back


    Healer doing DPS
    Still Shaman?


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    Six pages deep in a thread that's about Mythic+ in BFA isn't really the place to start a conversation about theorycrafting team comps based off of information (or lack thereof) from the Shadowlands alpha, so I moved your post.

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    I'm going to be trying:


    1. 5x Druids (1 Guardian 4 Balance, all with resto affinity)
    2. Prot Paladin Resto Shaman 3x BM Hunters
    3. Prot Paladin 4x Elemental Shaman (maybe one resto?)
    4. 5x Paladins (1 Prot 1 Holy 3 Ret, maybe 4 ret?)
    5. Holy Paladin and 4x Blood DKs (are these going to be nerfed in Shadowlands? DKs are only in the 80s atm)
    6. Mistweaver Monk and 4x DHs (unsure on this, no experience with monks or DH, but might be interesting)


    I will probably level up 5 shaman, 5 druids, 5 hunters, 5 paladins, 5 DKs and 5 DHs, mainly via questing, and split em around to different dungeon teams at 60, but we will see how the questing goes, and how boxing friendly they are, vs how boxing friendly the dungeons are.

    The real question is, do I bother getting more hivemind clusters on any of these teams? I only have it on the Druids so far, and it took me like 12 hours, and I did not enjoy the process.

    Looking at this list and I am probably not going to get everything leveled up, for the first couple patches anyway. I'd guess that the lower in the list the less likely they will make it to 60, let alone run dungeons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddoran View Post
    I'm going to be trying:


    1. 5x Druids (1 Guardian 4 Balance, all with resto affinity)
    2. Prot Paladin Resto Shaman 3x BM Hunters
    3. Prot Paladin 4x Elemental Shaman (maybe one resto?)
    4. 5x Paladins (1 Prot 1 Holy 3 Ret, maybe 4 ret?)
    5. Holy Paladin and 4x Blood DKs (are these going to be nerfed in Shadowlands? DKs are only in the 80s atm)
    6. Mistweaver Monk and 4x DHs (unsure on this, no experience with monks or DH, but might be interesting)


    I will probably level up 5 shaman, 5 druids, 5 hunters, 5 paladins, 5 DKs and 5 DHs, mainly via questing, and split em around to different dungeon teams at 60, but we will see how the questing goes, and how boxing friendly they are, vs how boxing friendly the dungeons are.

    The real question is, do I bother getting more hivemind clusters on any of these teams? I only have it on the Druids so far, and it took me like 12 hours, and I did not enjoy the process
    I could have made this exact post, as I have the same exact teams..only difference is my 4 of my shaman are only 100. I plan to level them to 120 before the expac ( maybe during the pre-patch ) I also I have one rogue and one monk that i boosted to 120 to open my lockboxes. I plan to level them the same as you..all one class.

    I have a team of warlocks at 100 as well.. not sure if i will level them..if there is a exp bonus thing during the pre-patch for expac.. i might level the locks and anything else im missing..ie priests..warriors and 4 more monks and rogues. We still have no idea what will be best comps..we can only awesome at this point.

    I have only done the hivemind with my druids as well.. i kind of regret doing them first, the druids are the one team that gets the least out of it. I find when im questing or doing WQs I use insta-flight form more.. it comes in handy for PvP though. So, i plan to do the hivemind on all my teams at some point.

    Now if we could get someone who is currently boxing in Alpha to start posting updates!
    Currently 5 Boxing 5 Protection Paladins on Whisperwind Alliance
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    With the balance changes coming I think a boomkin trinity or 4x boomy is going to feel awkward. The current system lends itself well to boxing, but with old school eclipse coming back I just don’t see how it will be manageable, but I will admit it’s really too early to really tell. I’m planning on raiding moonkin/resto and I’ve historically not liked raiding and multi boxing the same classes.

    I’m really hoping to play DKs/Paladins still. I’m really hopeful for 2H frost making a strong come back. Hunter trinity will remain strong. Might look to incorporate a 5x Paladin team. I’d really like to see a caster trinity do well or even be remotely viable.
    Streaming M+ pretty irregularly: https://www.twitch.tv/z0k90
    Hunter Trinity + Paladins
    DKs + Disc Priest

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC70DI2SF_h7V7RBdKdI6PPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0k View Post
    With the balance changes coming I think a boomkin trinity or 4x boomy is going to feel awkward. The current system lends itself well to boxing, but with old school eclipse coming back I just don’t see how it will be manageable, but I will admit it’s really too early to really tell. I’m planning on raiding moonkin/resto and I’ve historically not liked raiding and multi boxing the same classes.
    I have a bear and x4 Boomkins and really wanted to main the team in Shadowlands. Here is some Balance footage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z7EdKFYaUM

    They look weak
    Last edited by Andreauk : 07-03-2020 at 05:04 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreauk View Post
    I have a bear and x4 Boomkins and really wanted to main the team in Shadowlands. Here is some Balance footage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z7EdKFYaUM

    They look weak
    it’s really not about how strong or weak they are it’s really that eclipse is hard to manage and will have a high skill floor making it not ideal to box
    Streaming M+ pretty irregularly: https://www.twitch.tv/z0k90
    Hunter Trinity + Paladins
    DKs + Disc Priest

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC70DI2SF_h7V7RBdKdI6PPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0k View Post
    it’s really not about how strong or weak they are it’s really that eclipse is hard to manage and will have a high skill floor making it not ideal to box
    Eclipse is easy to box right now, the stacks make it safe to macro, did something change about eclipse in SL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Eclipse is easy to box right now, the stacks make it safe to macro, did something change about eclipse in SL?

    Yes, they've changed Eclipse virtually every expansion. Empowerments are gone, Eclipse is a slider again. There are a few things that may make or break this from a boxing perspective.

    1.) Each Eclipse has a 30 second ICD
    2.) You must enter each Eclipse back and forth
    3.) It's not as RNG as before (it used to be based upon your character's having a crit)
    Streaming M+ pretty irregularly: https://www.twitch.tv/z0k90
    Hunter Trinity + Paladins
    DKs + Disc Priest

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC70DI2SF_h7V7RBdKdI6PPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0k View Post
    Yes, they've changed Eclipse virtually every expansion. Empowerments are gone, Eclipse is a slider again. There are a few things that may make or break this from a boxing perspective.

    1.) Each Eclipse has a 30 second ICD
    2.) You must enter each Eclipse back and forth
    3.) It's not as RNG as before (it used to be based upon your character's having a crit)
    ug, sad news. not worth the performance loss. Empowerment stacks were perfect. Why would they go back to something the entire boomkin community hated?

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