What would the best main DPS class to use for a 40-man raid setup?

[dustofoblivion]

I am hesitating between fury warrior and mage as my main dps class. I currently have a 10 man party with every class minus rogue. I understand that fury warrior's main advantage over mage is that the gear is easier to get without relying on raid gear.

Would love to hear your opinions.

[Fuii]

You're more likely to find a raid spot as fury warrior then a mage.
While there are a lot of furies out there already (same for mages though) most raids tend to take a fury over a mage if a decision has to be made (assuming there are already mages and fury warriors in the raid)... its just more consistent and far better scaling damage.

Even with pre-raid gear, a fury warrior will most likely deal more damage to a boss than a raid-gear mage.

[dustofoblivion]

You're more likely to find a raid spot as fury warrior then a mage.
While there are a lot of furies out there already (same for mages though) most raids tend to take a fury over a mage if a decision has to be made (assuming there are already mages and fury warriors in the raid)... its just more consistent and far better scaling damage.

Even with pre-raid gear, a fury warrior will most likely deal more damage to a boss than a raid-gear mage.

You misunderstood my question. I want to 40-man multibox, and I'm wondering if my main DPS class should be a fury warrior or a mage.

[valkry]

You misunderstood my question. I want to 40-man multibox, and I'm wondering if my main DPS class should be a fury warrior or a mage.

Fury warrior 100% then, not even a question, warrior all the way. faster you can nuke that boss the better, nothing beats a brown, end of story.

If you want to 40 man box, you want to get to a point where you can ignore mechanics (or just burst fast enough to skip them). Once you get some gear warriors scale incredibly well. The rotation is easy as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfFG2HNGYGU - <Apes> speedrun of BWL, note that almost 50% of the raid are browns.

[Kruschpakx4]

the question is can you multibox 20 wars properly enough to do more dps than mages who need 1 button for dps in a 40 man setup, because I doubt you will have time to manage rage in any way so you should compare the dps with a "bad" warrior, not likely to find those in <apes>

it will also take an eternity to gear those wars there like...7 items for dps wars in MC, 4 of which are 2h weapons

[nodoze]

You misunderstood my question. I want to 40-man multibox, and I'm wondering if my main DPS class should be a fury warrior or a mage.

the question is can you multibox 20 wars properly enough to do more dps than mages who need 1 button for dps in a 40 man setup, because I doubt you will have time to manage rage in any way so you should compare the dps with a "bad" warrior, not likely to find those in <apes>

it will also take an eternity to gear those wars there like...7 items for dps wars in MC, 4 of which are 2h weapons

I would think Mages would be easiest to play and keep alive from a ranged perspective.

Would all mages top DPS in raids were you can leverage ignite mechanics?

[strokes]

the question is can you multibox 20 wars properly enough to do more dps than mages who need 1 button for dps in a 40 man setup, because I doubt you will have time to manage rage in any way so you should compare the dps with a "bad" warrior, not likely to find those in <apes>

it will also take an eternity to gear those wars there like...7 items for dps wars in MC, 4 of which are 2h weapons

It's pretty easy to be in the 50+ percentile dps as a warrior while multiboxing. I can do it while healing on my resto shaman. Fury is a joke spec for raiding. You only need to micro manage rage if you're going for 99 parses. If you have any weapon skill, you can smash out 60-70 parses relatively easy.

Your biggest issues are gonna be mechanics, not dps.

[valkry]

Once you get to a certain gear level you basically get infinite rage. You just have bloodthirst & whirlwind, and can macro heroic strike into just a few of those. The browns will top meters with just quest/dungeon blues.

[Kruschpakx4]

Once you get to a certain gear level you basically get infinite rage. You just have bloodthirst & whirlwind, and can macro heroic strike into just a few of those. The browns will top meters with just quest/dungeon blues.

i just want to emphasise that he should atleast compare the dps between arms/fury/frostmage in the setting he wants to run MC, like full preraid bis with all world buffs, sure fury will be ahead. Not preraid bis/most quest or random dungeon gear, no consumeables ect...then all you need is a good 2h weapon and arms will do better especially since half the boss encounters and most trash you really shine with sweeping strikes. But you dont want to farm 20x hoj, which is like 1k angerforge (soon emp) runs or not even gearing to hitcap, Im afraid a crap geared mage outperforms a warrior at that stage. And keep in mind there is a decent amount of loot in MC for mages compared to dps warriors especially when you cut ragnaros out of the equation (which we can certainly do).

[Tazeon]

if you want to clear MC I would go with mages as main dd.

ragnaros should be a lot easier with mages instead of melees.


gearing is also not difficult with bloodvine set and zg items.