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    I swapped my build to Prot Pal / Resto Shaman as the Resto was pumping more DPS without the 5% damage bonus for the group and it feels quite solid. Ran two different +5's (Tol Dagor and Waycrest) and timed them both +2, but need more gear.

    @Diwa - there could be potential in 4 Ele Shaman - but their overall healing they contribute is a bit weak. No chain heal, and no healing rain. They have a talent that converts 25% damage into a heal - but after doing the math it wasn't too strong.

    @Toned - did a +9 with 4 rets?!
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    Healers (minus Mistweaver) are doing so much damage now when they dont need to heal, and tanks are self healing monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Healers (minus Mistweaver) are doing so much damage now when they dont need to heal, and tanks are self healing monsters.
    I have a 120 Disc Priest and given that this class needs to DPS to heal, I want to know if I should push on leveling a Shaman from 110 instead?

    So far my 120s are
    Priest, Warlock and Hunter.

    Not sure about Warlock when it comes to M+ but it seems 3BM are highly favorable for mobile DPS

    Based from YouTube DK seems to be favorable for 8.3 and Vengeance DH seems to be next. But can't deny the utility and multibox friendly of Paladin

    Holy Paladin and Disc Priest got nerfs and Mistweaver got reverted. So I guess it's Shaman

    lol at the intro of this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgeXAVaqbA8


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    Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.
    What you posted earlier about this dude doing 20+ as prot paladin without a healer: I quickly went through his VoDs and 3 big nuances afaik:

    1) he is not multiboxing
    2) I only found him playing holy paladin and not prot
    3) those guys are pretty much BiS
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    What you posted earlier about this dude doing 20+ as prot paladin without a healer: I quickly went through his VoDs and 3 big nuances afaik:

    1) he is not multiboxing
    2) I only found him playing holy paladin and not prot
    3) those guys are pretty much BiS
    Yah, he doesnt box at all, i was just looking for possibilities and theorizing.

    He's a healer about 90% of his playtime. So it makes it even more impressive to me that he is able to do it, really shows how easy yet strong prot pally is.
    Search "Zmok no healer" and you'll get better results. Most of his No healer runs vary between 17's and 20's. He has about 6 vids on youtube and his stream vods probably have 50 runs.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/PvPvidi...uery=no+healer

    He doesnt raid outside of pugs, so he could definitely have much more optimal gear. He does try to get better gear, but pugs are terrible. He also plays so many alts he wastes time on too many characters. Last night he was 4th on dps as holy pally in his heroic pug. Definitely not out of reach for the average multiboxer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.

    Maybe the Shaman love will come back given that tremor totem can cancel the mind control mechanic of 8.3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qMCljcZnc#t=4m38s


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diwa View Post
    Maybe the Shaman love will come back given that tremor totem can cancel the mind control mechanic of 8.3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qMCljcZnc#t=4m38s
    i would love for prot pally - 4 Ele to be a thing again. Actually excited hoping for classic TBC in a year or two.

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