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  1. #31

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    Had some friends in my guild point out a few things that might make it a lot smoother, owing to be being a terrible mage considering i really only play my warrior, going to redo the first video soon

  2. #32

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    I am planning on boosting up 3 aoe and a healer by using my level 60 warrior as the booster, but instead of the alts just sitting at the entrance they will end up helping dps and heal basically the same as I leveled normally to 60 but with a tank that has way more survivablity for bigger pulls, and way more threat to instant damage on the dps, thus speeding up the leveling and reducing the amount of stress for wiping, should just be a very cozy time even though there is a 20 percent hit to XP using a lvl 60.

    My friend and I were testing boosting XP and a full run of armory is 8k-9k xp even with a lvl 60, so you would get 40k-45k xp an hour just farming that, and then you can add another SM wing to your farm to get 10 dungeons an hour if you get fast enough, making this way faster than normal leveling and way less annoying if you get it down.
    Last edited by Hardcore Scape : 12-03-2019 at 02:37 PM

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore Scape View Post
    I am planning on boosting up 3 aoe and a healer by using my level 60 warrior as the booster, but instead of the alts just sitting at the entrance they will end up helping dps and heal basically the same as I leveled normally to 60 but with a tank that has way more survivablity for bigger pulls, and way more threat to instant damage on the dps, thus speeding up the leveling and reducing the amount of stress for wiping, should just be a very cozy time even though there is a 20 percent hit to XP using a lvl 60.

    My friend and I were testing boosting XP and a full run of armory is 8k-9k xp even with a lvl 60, so you would get 40k-45k xp an hour just farming that, and then you can add another SM wing to your farm to get 10 dungeons an hour if you get fast enough, making this way faster than normal leveling and way less annoying if you get it down.
    I am taking a similar approach with my 60 Paladin being the Tank and AoEing pushing Threat and then all the Alts AoEing as well.

    My thoughts were similar that I should have an easier time on pulling and tanking.

  4. #34

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    I can see it being a LOT easier with a tank at 60 and healing yourself.

    What seems to be happening on my server the last two or three days..

    I said earlier, 34-36 was a breeze. Then all of a sudden, I've got multiple mobs not getting hit by blizzard. Did about 5 more runs today so far and almost every pull in cath I am having to cold snap or sheep defenders. Prior to this, they'd all be grouped up in a line nicely and not break. Literally. Every single pull they break, even with spamming blizz. They sprint through it and run right at me.

    Edit: another 2 runs and just to test the shitty RNG, pulled bottom half and got 10 resists between 2 runs on novas. Unreal.
    Last edited by chansi : 12-03-2019 at 08:43 PM

  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore Scape View Post
    I am planning on boosting up 3 aoe and a healer by using my level 60 warrior as the booster, but instead of the alts just sitting at the entrance they will end up helping dps and heal basically the same as I leveled normally to 60 but with a tank that has way more survivablity for bigger pulls, and way more threat to instant damage on the dps, thus speeding up the leveling and reducing the amount of stress for wiping, should just be a very cozy time even though there is a 20 percent hit to XP using a lvl 60.

    My friend and I were testing boosting XP and a full run of armory is 8k-9k xp even with a lvl 60, so you would get 40k-45k xp an hour just farming that, and then you can add another SM wing to your farm to get 10 dungeons an hour if you get fast enough, making this way faster than normal leveling and way less annoying if you get it down.
    im guessing you would use as much aoe damage items as well? would you do it in def form?
    Currently 5 Boxing 5 Protection Paladins on Whisperwind Alliance
    The Power of Five!!! ( short video )

  6. #36

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    Yea def form, I have 2x force reactive disks and dense dynamite is legit the new meta for tank threat (costs 30 silver to make 1) I can start dps instantly after popping one, and then oil's of immolation if needed. Having one of Fire shield/thorns/crystal spire also would help a lot. And any extra bonus you could add a couple items that aoe, I think there's a weapon enchant that does. Rag trinket, nag ring, blood cape, razor guants are all extra threat but yea it would probably work with just demo + dense dynamite or oil.

    https://gyazo.com/806e3666c8f5cb0ee2306b073510d71d

    something like this with like force of will/ 2 percent dodge trinket/ mark of chosen trinkets

    and then for talents just make sure you get 5/5 parry , improved demo, defiance and any other talents you think help mitigate damage.

    Early dungeons up until SM I might just use a mage if its quick and not annoying at all, then switch to a warrior at SM.
    Last edited by Hardcore Scape : 12-04-2019 at 12:14 AM

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore Scape View Post
    Yea def form, I have 2x force reactive disks and dense dynamite is legit the new meta for tank threat (costs 30 silver to make 1) I can start dps instantly after popping one, and then oil's of immolation if needed. Having one of Fire shield/thorns/crystal spire also would help a lot. And any extra bonus you could add a couple items that aoe, I think there's a weapon enchant that does. Rag trinket, nag ring, blood cape, razor guants are all extra threat but yea it would probably work with just demo + dense dynamite or oil.

    https://gyazo.com/806e3666c8f5cb0ee2306b073510d71d

    something like this with like force of will/ 2 percent dodge trinket/ mark of chosen trinkets

    and then for talents just make sure you get 5/5 parry , improved demo, defiance and any other talents you think help mitigate damage.

    Early dungeons up until SM I might just use a mage if its quick and not annoying at all, then switch to a warrior at SM.
    I agree with Protection Warrior if Horde but if Alliance I would do Protection Paladin.

    I also agree with Hardcore Scape's gear recommendations and had put the following together for Protection Paladins (some of which is also valid for Protection Warriors):

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=296552331

    Note: The above spreadsheet has quite a bit but is still a work in progress...

    Note that Protection Paladins can have multiple paths toward the same goal... One often recommended path is to go max defense with something like the Deathbone Guardian set though some of the best talents in the Protection Paladin tree activate when the Paladin is crit (like +30% Block from Redoubt & extra attacks via Reckoning) and defense lessens crits so another option is to go for max armor/stamina and not worry as much about defense (especially when the mobs are low level). Some people focus on spell damage which can be significant though you are getting into Bind on Pickup (BoP) Raid gear for the good stuff and the BiS list above is more dungeon or BoE gear (though some pieces are from Raids)...

    The Force Reactive Disks are great but very expensive to make and keep repaired (and you need 2 or 3 as they break so often) so another option that can be looked at is the Argent Defender which gives a chance for +50% block on hit and coupled with Blessing of Sanctuary and Thorium Shield Spike should be putting out quite a bit of damage/mitigation (about 60 damage with each block). With lots of low level mobs hitting you you should have good uptime on both the shield's +50% Block & +30% Block (from Redoubt talents) for some really nice reflection/mitigation (that is a crazy +80% Block on top of normal block). You can also get another +30% Block (to go >100%) from Holy Shield but it is only for 4 blocks every 10 seconds (has a hard cool-down), is mana intensive, and precludes you going very deep in the Holy Tree so it is hard to justify if you want to also Raid heal from a single spec.

    For Paladin self healing while AoE tanking the Hand of Edward the Odd gives you instant cast deep heals and Uther's Strength trinket procs (coupled with the boosted Priest alt's Power Word Shield) also give you enough respite for heals often (especially against lower level mobs). You should map a key such that when Uther's Strength procs you simultaneously cast both shield from the Priest and heal from the Paladin...

    For motivation:

    Video on The POWER of Prot Paladin Dungeon Farming in Classic WoW
    Last edited by nodoze : 12-04-2019 at 08:08 PM

  8. #38

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    Wish I didn’t hate alliance cities and towns, would love to use a paladin.

    I’m nearing the end of SM, level 39 on the alts and not sure where to head next. I turned cath into 4 pulls to avoid so much rng with slows, can clear it in ~14min with the odd death because the abbots heal at the right time.

    any advice on where to go next ? Might farm BRD entrance on the mage and park them all towards the front. Thought about ZF but it’d be hard to run four chars to safe spots with no deaths.

  9. #39

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    I would use a play as well.. but i dont have one leveled to 60.. i do have a warrior at 60. I am alliance and plan to do 5 paladins for fun at some point. ( i have one at 33 now but he is on same account as warrior.)
    Currently 5 Boxing 5 Protection Paladins on Whisperwind Alliance
    The Power of Five!!! ( short video )

  10. #40

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    Can anyone confirm that Blessing of Sanctuary stacks with the Force of Will trinket on the live Classic servers?

    Getting almost -50 damage from every hit (-24 -25) when fighting lots of lower level mobs should be absolutely crazy...

    I thought I read somewhere from old posts that they do NOT stack in Vanilla but then also read somewhere else that they did... Now I can't find any direct reference for either scenario...

    Would be great to know before spending a ton of time farming the trinket...
    Last edited by nodoze : 12-04-2019 at 10:49 PM

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