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    At what point would it be exp efficent to replace a mage in my WMMMP group with a 60 warlock? Not for soloing the dungeon with the warlock but to simply speed some things up, just treat him as a dps helper. My group is currently level 25

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    Quote Originally Posted by method98 View Post
    At what point would it be exp efficent to replace a mage in my WMMMP group with a 60 warlock? Not for soloing the dungeon with the warlock but to simply speed some things up, just treat him as a dps helper. My group is currently level 25

    This is what im trying doing with my 60 mage in the group. I use her to pl the best she can until the lowbies are high enough to contribute. I just ran to SM this morning and going to start in GY and see how i do.. i also have the pull with eye method i can try..but once the alts get in there 30s..they should be able to heal/dps some..after that.. the mage will just be a high level group member, and ill start playing the team as if she is just one of the DPS..her max level dps should help a lot


    when the alts can damage lvl 48s.. ill try the AE tagging method someplace outdoors. i can use my whole 60 team to do that.. as these new alts are on separate accounts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    This is what im trying doing with my 60 mage in the group. I use her to pl the best she can until the lowbies are high enough to contribute. I just ran to SM this morning and going to start in GY and see how i do.. i also have the pull with eye method i can try..but once the alts get in there 30s..they should be able to heal/dps some..after that.. the mage will just be a high level group member, and ill start playing the team as if she is just one of the DPS..her max level dps should help a lot


    when the alts can damage lvl 48s.. ill try the AE tagging method someplace outdoors. i can use my whole 60 team to do that.. as these new alts are on separate accounts

    I'd like som data wheter 1 60 in SM is better than a same level mage. Exp wise. Please share if you gather some, my team isnt ready for SM yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by method98 View Post
    I'd like som data wheter 1 60 in SM is better than a same level mage. Exp wise. Please share if you gather some, my team isnt ready for SM yet
    That would assume you are leveling a 5man team with an extra mage being kept the same level as the team that is being swapped out/in.

    Any calculations on XP should factor in that you are rotating out a 5th alt (if that matters to you) unless you really only wanted 4 alts leveled.

    I also am interested in any metrics.

    I updated the 'Levels' tab of the Classic WoW Planning spreadsheet with what a Level 60 should do to the average party level for every level from 15->60 and basically:

    A level 60 with 4 level 30 alts make the party average level 36.
    A level 60 with 4 level 35 alts make the party average level 40.
    (breakouts for every level are in the link above)

    It will be interesting to see any calculations.

    That being said the ease/survivability should be a factor as well and not just the raw XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    ... when the alts can damage lvl 48s.. ill try the AE tagging method someplace outdoors. i can use my whole 60 team to do that.. as these new alts are on separate accounts
    It would be interesting if one of the 5 hunter (or 4 hunter+healer) teams can try boosting 2+ low level alts out of group in the world via the tagging method with ONLY THE PETS killing the Tagged alts...

    According to Approach 2B this should work for any 2 alts at ANY level for full XP per kill and could be the fastest way to level 2+ alts at the lowest levels. This could maybe help alot for any twink alts &/or passive crafting alts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    It would be interesting if one of the 5 hunter (or 4 hunter+healer) teams can try boosting 2+ low level alts out of group in the world via the tagging method with ONLY THE PETS killing the Tagged alts...

    According to Approach 2B this should work for any 2 alts at ANY level for full XP per kill and could be the fastest way to level 2+ alts at the lowest levels. This could maybe help alot for any twink alts &/or passive crafting alts.
    I was able to try this approach with a lvl 50 hunter/warlock boosting 3x lvl 14-16 in Westfall. It was really fast. Tried the hyperspawns and it worked well with a single pet. Tried the hyperspawn in Wetlands as well, but had issues tagging the red lvl mobs fast enough, so the xp/hour sank. Would be insane with a couple of 60 pets following a group of lowbies (just AFK /follow and pet Agressive even). AFAIK only limit is tag speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congau View Post
    I was able to try this approach with a lvl 50 hunter/warlock boosting 3x lvl 14-16 in Westfall. It was really fast. Tried the hyperspawns and it worked well with a single pet. Tried the hyperspawn in Wetlands as well, but had issues tagging the red lvl mobs fast enough, so the xp/hour sank. Would be insane with a couple of 60 pets following a group of lowbies (just AFK /follow and pet Agressive even). AFAIK only limit is tag speed
    Yeah this find has me wishing my boosting main was a Hunter instead of a Paladin or even better to have a team of 4Hunters+Healer...

    For a 5 boxer who wants to level up 2 alts the ideal scenario is likely 3 level 60 hunters following out of party assuming the tagging duo have easy ways to tag fast and self heal easily (otherwise you would need to swap out a level 60 hunter for a level 60 Priest). If the low level alts have a way to quickly tag mobs at range efficiently pets on aggressive would be just crazy easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    Yeah this find has me wishing my main was a Hunter instead of a Paladin or even better to have a team of 4Hunters+Healer...

    For a 5 boxer who wants to level up 2 alts the ideal scenario is likely 3 level 60 hunters following out of party assuming the tagging duo have easy ways to tag fast and self heal easily (otherwise you would need to swap out a level 60 hunter for a level 60 Priest). If the low level alts have a way to quickly tag mobs at range efficiently pets on aggressive would be just crazy easy.
    Just wanted to add that hunter pet spell Screech was far superior; being able to gather a camp of 6+ mobs with its aoe effect and keeping agro (but not actually tagging the mobs beyond its first target), letting you slowly tag them, with wands/melee etc on the lowbies. I would also recommend a bird with faster than 2.0 attack speed.

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