Melee-Cleave Boxing End Game Dungeons

[Apatheist]

That attack table is for +3 level mobs too, unrelated to the quote.

The level of the mob is just the example they use. Calculations are made based on skill tables not level. Your weapon skill versus the targets defense skill.

https://github.com/magey/classic-war...e#weapon-skill

Effectively, for each point of weapon skill above your targets defense skill gives you 0.04% increased crit chance and decreased dodge, block, parry and miss down to the minimum base value of 5%.

A level 52 mob has 260 defense. 312 Weapon skill would give you 2.08% additional chance to crit.

As well as changing the avoidance table, weapon skill reduces the damage reduction from glancing blows. A human with edgemasters (312 weapon skill) will do 95% damage with a glancing blow compared to a character with 300 weapon skill who will do 65% damage on glancing blows.

[Swydi]

The level of the mob is just the example they use. Calculations are made based on skill tables not level. Your weapon skill versus the targets defense skill.

https://github.com/magey/classic-war...e#weapon-skill

Effectively, for each point of weapon skill above your targets defense skill gives you 0.04% increased crit chance and decreased dodge, block, parry and miss down to the minimum base value of 5%.

A level 52 mob has 260 defense. 312 Weapon skill would give you 2.08% additional chance to crit.

As well as changing the avoidance table, weapon skill reduces the damage reduction from glancing blows. A human with edgemasters (312 weapon skill) will do 95% damage with a glancing blow compared to a character with 300 weapon skill who will do 65% damage on glancing blows.

I checked the link and yeh, you are very much right. Thank you for the link

[Kruschpakx4]

always had the impression that 305 weapon skill makes stuff like edgemaster gauntlets obsolete but thats actually a huge damage boost on raid bosses

it makes even more difference when you're dual wielding so I'm gonna grab 4 of those and cloudkeeper leggings instead of devil saur set for raiding I guess

[Purpleflavor]

always had the impression that 305 weapon skill makes stuff like edgemaster gauntlets obsolete but thats actually a huge damage boost on raid bosses

it makes even more difference when you're dual wielding so I'm gonna grab 4 of those and cloudkeeper leggings instead of devil saur set for raiding I guess

Base chance to miss is 5%, so 305 skill from racials helps a lot with that.
Hit cap for dual wielding warriors (mobs +3lvls and bosses) is 26% for autoattacks and 9% for skills. You aim for the minimum 9% and everything over that is gravy. It's pretty terrible to dual wield below 9%, dw fury gets really good in phase 3 and on.

[Swydi]

https://youtu.be/SfZcEIRinrs

strat UD, the gauntlet before ramstein

[nodoze]

https://youtu.be/SfZcEIRinrs

strat UD, the gauntlet before ramstein

Thanks for sharing. That was a little rough at the end!

Updated the initial post at the top of the thread.

Would be great to see more.

Please everyone lets get some additional boxed melee-cleave videos posted... Would like to list some videos with different healers than Shaman and/or with dual-healers as well and want examples from all the end game dungeons...

Please everyone also post your Warrior and Healer specs to this thread and I will put them in the initial post (citing credit like I did for Quiding's Shaman build).

[Purpleflavor]

I don't know if he'll mind, but it's public on youtube so i'm posting it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi99DwWudOg
Dwon 5xpaladin DM-East

This is such a smooth run.

[strokes]

https://youtu.be/SfZcEIRinrs

strat UD, the gauntlet before ramstein

Do you have a consistent strategy for Baroness Anastari? I've been avoiding strat UD because I can't consistently put the MC target to 50% and its kinda tilting.

I'm 4x fury 1x resto

Edit: Also, whats the consensus on spec? Fury is a lot easier to manage, but everyone else seems like they're arms on their teams. I gave up / stalled out on 4/4 HoJ after ~200 angerforge runs (got 2) so my team seems to be a little bit behind everyone else thats posting videos.

[Mercbeast]

Do you have a consistent strategy for Baroness Anastari? I've been avoiding strat UD because I can't consistently put the MC target to 50% and its kinda tilting.

I'm 4x fury 1x resto

Edit: Also, whats the consensus on spec? Fury is a lot easier to manage, but everyone else seems like they're arms on their teams. I gave up / stalled out on 4/4 HoJ after ~200 angerforge runs (got 2) so my team seems to be a little bit behind everyone else thats posting videos.

Arms is better for immediate burst dps, but it falls quite a bit behind when you don't instantly blow everything up with sweeping strikes. There is also a very noticeable difference in single target (ie, boss fights) where fury blows arms out of the water, even at relatively low gear levels.

I've been running angerforge with a friend (he's an arms/fury war) while I am fury/arms on mine. He consistently gets threat on big pulls due to sweeping strikes, but on any single target fight, he's 20 to 50% lower DPS than my fury warriors.

[Bobstacle]

Great thread! I've been learning so much about the 4 Warriors + 1 Shaman composition from the contributions, so thank you all to those that have contributed.

One thing I am noticing (and as to be expected) is that DPS Warriors are getting beat up pretty badly by some of the harder hitting end game bosses and mobs. Also, there is game of whack-a-mole going on from the healing perspective as threat is bounced around - looks a little stressful. So I was curious if anyone has tried to roll with one Warrior being protection spec in order to bring a little order to the chaos? If anyone has tried this, can you tell us about the upsides/downsides to doing so?

Thanks much!