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    Tbe Blackblade of Shazram has infinte buffs, so if you get 4x of these, I'd reckon you could do in theory some retarded numbers....


    • Curse of Shahram : AE Slow Enemies
    • Might of Shahram : AE Stun Enemies (~5 sec)
    • Fist of Shahram : Group Haste - 25% (~8 sec)
    • Blessing of Shahram : Group restore life/mana (20 sec)
    • Will of Shahram : Self +50 all stats (20 sec) (stacks infinitely)
    • Flames of Shahram : Flamestrike enemies (~100-150 damage)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecsican View Post
    Yo Kruschpakx4 !
    My 4x War, 1x Sham team is currently level 45 and I've got 5x Ravagers with crusaders, aswell as 5x Executioner's Cleaver. I've kinda hit a leveling wall as I dont see ZF being as effective as I thought it would be. Were you running 1 war as tank, or just everyone as arms/fury? Also I've put in stopaura on all of my dps macros, so that they don't cancel my procs. Do you have any tips? Would be much appriciated. Also after ZF, where did you head off to? ST or BRD? Cheers!
    from 45 onwards i found ZF grind to be quite ok, maybe lower xp at 45-46 but once you outlevel the mobs 2-3 levels higher you roll through quite easily. So all I did was grave runs, you also make decent money there and have a chance to grab flurry axe which sells for 300-500g where I am or you keep them for dw fury later (assuming you play orcs). I know that at 45 its still a little difficult but i dont think questing is faster at all. The executioneers cleaver should do well for the 2-3 man groups at the beginning of zf and then switch to ravager at graves (I was able to open 2-3 at level 45,46 but once you're 48+ and mobs are green you really start to reck them fast and I could open up to 6 at a time (number might be misleading since there is not always the same amount of mobs in them, but Im roughly speaking of 10 mobs at a time) in which case the shaman had to go full on lhw spam until oom but it went really well there. In generel I feel melee teams should in particular farm spots where mobs are at or below your level to avoid glancing. You can effectively run ZF graves until 52, what I did is go sunken temple at 51 for quests and to check it out and I can tell you its a waste of time if you're just looking for xp. Sunken temple has too much single target mini bosses that stall your xp/hr rate. And the graveyard is much further away than zf and you can mount in zf so enough reason to stay there. At 52+ you do brd grind as usual with arena and the mobs around that area (although the side where fire elementals are part of the packs are rather difficult I'd stay in the interrogator wing).

    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Tbe Blackblade of Shazram has infinte buffs, so if you get 4x of these, I'd reckon you could do in theory some retarded numbers....


    • Curse of Shahram : AE Slow Enemies
    • Might of Shahram : AE Stun Enemies (~5 sec)
    • Fist of Shahram : Group Haste - 25% (~8 sec)
    • Blessing of Shahram : Group restore life/mana (20 sec)
    • Will of Shahram : Self +50 all stats (20 sec) (stacks infinitely)
    • Flames of Shahram : Flamestrike enemies (~100-150 damage)

    that sounds quite fun the drop rate of that thing....probably farm it with my ele sham boxer mate once the draconic infused emblem got patched in the loot
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  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4 View Post
    from 45 onwards i found ZF grind to be quite ok, maybe lower xp at 45-46 but once you outlevel the mobs 2-3 levels higher you roll through quite easily. So all I did was grave runs, you also make decent money there and have a chance to grab flurry axe which sells for 300-500g where I am or you keep them for dw fury later (assuming you play orcs). I know that at 45 its still a little difficult but i dont think questing is faster at all. The executioneers cleaver should do well for the 2-3 man groups at the beginning of zf and then switch to ravager at graves (I was able to open 2-3 at level 45,46 but once you're 48+ and mobs are green you really start to reck them fast and I could open up to 6 at a time (number might be misleading since there is not always the same amount of mobs in them, but Im roughly speaking of 10 mobs at a time) in which case the shaman had to go full on lhw spam until oom but it went really well there. In generel I feel melee teams should in particular farm spots where mobs are at or below your level to avoid glancing. You can effectively run ZF graves until 52, what I did is go sunken temple at 51 for quests and to check it out and I can tell you its a waste of time if you're just looking for xp. Sunken temple has too much single target mini bosses that stall your xp/hr rate. And the graveyard is much further away than zf and you can mount in zf so enough reason to stay there. At 52+ you do brd grind as usual with arena and the mobs around that area (although the side where fire elementals are part of the packs are rather difficult I'd stay in the interrogator wing).
    Skip the mini bosses in the upper ring. I was able to do 50-55k/hr there with alliance warriors and a priest. Warriors with a shaman would/should be even faster, and that's certainly faster than you're gonna grind in BRD from 52-55 imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    Skip the mini bosses in the upper ring. I was able to do 50-55k/hr there with alliance warriors and a priest. Warriors with a shaman would/should be even faster, and that's certainly faster than you're gonna grind in BRD from 52-55 imo.
    so you just run the the right/left upstairs ring with all the mobs? yeah i guess thats good since many are cloth/casters easy prey from warriors, i just prefered brd due to having some best in slot items for warriors

    i basically went for a full run, looked at xp per hour and thought nope
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4 View Post
    so you just run the the right/left upstairs ring with all the mobs? yeah i guess thats good since many are cloth/casters easy prey from warriors, i just prefered brd due to having some best in slot items for warriors

    i basically went for a full run, looked at xp per hour and thought nope
    Well, it worked for you.

    You got BIS DPS chest till naxx on all 4 warriors.

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    I currently have 8 warriors and 2 shamans at 60 and am having an incredibly easy time doing rend runs. I can kill rend in 20-25 minutes which is faster than most groups of regular humans can pull off.

    Mage heavy groups are definitely significantly easier to manage and are less gear dependant but I’ve found that now that all of my warriors have lionheart helm, devilsaur sets and are almost in full pre raid bis I can just face roll through pretty much every dungeon much faster than a caster group could.

    also, I see people are going on about the 2 hander of drak but for speed clearing dungeons earthshaker from MC is the way to go. I’ve got 1 so far but I’d like at least 4 of them to chain aoe stun mobs on every pull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeakyBicepsMan View Post
    I currently have 8 warriors and 2 shamans at 60 and am having an incredibly easy time doing rend runs. I can kill rend in 20-25 minutes which is faster than most groups of regular humans can pull off.

    Mage heavy groups are definitely significantly easier to manage and are less gear dependant but I’ve found that now that all of my warriors have lionheart helm, devilsaur sets and are almost in full pre raid bis I can just face roll through pretty much every dungeon much faster than a caster group could.

    also, I see people are going on about the 2 hander of drak but for speed clearing dungeons earthshaker from MC is the way to go. I’ve got 1 so far but I’d like at least 4 of them to chain aoe stun mobs on every pull.
    Can you upload a video of some runs so others can see a boxing melee cleave group in action successfully at cap in the harder dungeons?

    Edit: Do you have two 5box groups of 4Warriors+Shaman or are your 10box'ing 8Warriors+2Shaman?

    If you are 10boxing, did you level them as a 10box or as two separate 5boxes (or some other way)?

    If you leveled them as a 10box, did you do it via Dungeons and did you find that efficient such that you would take that approach again?

    If you leveled a 10box in dungeons do you know if you leveled them before or after the nerf (or during so you had a feel for both before/after)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeakyBicepsMan View Post
    also, I see people are going on about the 2 hander of drak but for speed clearing dungeons earthshaker from MC is the way to go. I’ve got 1 so far but I’d like at least 4 of them to chain aoe stun mobs on every pull.
    Blackblade of Shazram has no internal cooldown, can proc on every hit, stacks, and with windfury yikes. Can work for hunters too if you wanna get fancy, spam wing clip while pets get threat started, step back and unload.

    Too bad it's a sword, this proc would be BiS for ferals, would literally make 5 druids viable.

    Earthshaker is amazing as well, the proc cooldown is a bit longer than i like though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Blackblade of Shazram has no internal cooldown, can proc on every hit, stacks, and with windfury yikes.

    Earthshaker is amazing as well, the proc cooldown is a bit longer than i like though.
    I was reading about Earthshaker and it sounded like, especially if you are on a buzzsaw team with no downtime pulling clump after clump, it could spread out it's procs pretty well considering the proc chance and lack of cool-down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    I was reading about Earthshaker and it sounded like, especially if you are on a buzzsaw team with no downtime pulling clump after clump, it could spread out it's procs pretty well considering the proc chance and lack of cool-down.
    Yah, it has to be one of our best weapons for boxing Arms. Does the stun DR on itself? It's 3 seconds, and the Blackblade of Shahram is 5 seconds, so you'll likely aoe stun the pack longer with Blackblade of Shahram, and likely every pull.
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