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  1. #221

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    Thanks for sharing.

    Did you ever try or consider a Resto Druid over Holy Paladin with your Bear+3Rogues?

    Just curious because it open up a full stealth party option.
    No worries, hope it helps people since a lot of people seem rogue averse! I did consider it but having blessings, aura and mana efficiency is what pushed me towards a pally healer. Totally true that you could have gone full stealth with that set-up but to me the combination of buffs for overall group combat efficiency was >. Having devo aura/blessing of might in combination with LoTP and motw is quite good on the rogues.

  2. #222

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomepower View Post
    No worries, hope it helps people since a lot of people seem rogue averse! I did consider it but having blessings, aura and mana efficiency is what pushed me towards a pally healer. Totally true that you could have gone full stealth with that set-up but to me the combination of buffs for overall group combat efficiency was >. Having devo aura/blessing of might in combination with LoTP and motw is quite good on the rogues.
    Thanks for sharing. It is kinda niche where all Stealth wins so for regular dungeon grinding the Paladin may indeed be better.

    I updated the first/initial post of the thread with the video and the build you run on the rogues (and the builds are also in the video).

    Those VFX'es of the Rogue combo point Weak Auras with the dark black backgrounds are really nice. This may help others consider multi-boxing rogues (and maybe can help with Feral Druids).

    The group does lack the muti-target cleave of other groups (except when the coold-down is up) but otherwise has strong DPS and it was good to see it killing the Baron.

    I really enjoyed watching the videos (especially the SM one with flurry of long glowing swords from the tiny gnomes which was even funnier when they ran ahead of the Tank).

  3. #223

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    No problem at all. Thanks RE the VFX and weak auras. I admit as a first timer doing VFX that took me WAY longer than it should of but it was worth the time investment.

    With some real gear I think it would be really strong endgame. Even just nightslayer BoEs, decent raid weps or ZG gear would make a big difference for the rogues and druid.

    Yeah, lmfao the rogues sprinting after stuff is a riot! It is fun to stealth the druid, hit sprint on all melee and have them surprise attack people in pvp. Many a laugh while watching that! Tiny mustache'd menaces!

  4. #224

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    Added to the first post at the start of the thread a link to Fleaplus's 5 Druid team in a BRD stealth run (and hoping to add more over time).

  5. #225

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    Any SWWWW boxers farming Naxx Trash for the BoE's? I've been a retailboy and i'll likely never get around to it until TBC.

  6. #226

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Any SWWWW boxers farming Naxx Trash for the BoE's? I've been a retailboy and i'll likely never get around to it until TBC.
    Can't say for sure but it doesn't seem likely. Naxx trash hits very hard (ghouls hit for 1500ish on a full T2 warrior) and without CC a single healer won't be able to keep melee alive.

    Might be possible for mages and maybe even warlocks with curse of exhaustion. Though, I seem to recall Blizzard patching something that made mobs reset if you tried to kite them beyond a certain point. If kiting does work, you could sub in a warrior with 3 mages just to soak up loot.

    If not, there will be tons of trash farm raids to join.
    Last edited by Apatheist : 10-23-2020 at 05:47 PM

  7. #227

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleflavor View Post
    Any SWWWW boxers farming Naxx Trash for the BoE's? I've been a retailboy and i'll likely never get around to it until TBC.
    Can't say for sure but it doesn't seem likely. Naxx trash hits very hard (ghouls hit for 1500ish on a full T2 warrior) and without CC a single healer won't be able to keep melee alive.

    Might be possible for mages and maybe even warlocks with curse of exhaustion. Though, I seem to recall Blizzard patching something that made mobs reset if you tried to kite them beyond a certain point. If kiting does work, you could sub in a warrior with 3 mages just to soak up loot.

    If not, there will be tons of trash farm raids to join.
    For a 5boxer I agree with Apatheist that likely W+3M+Healer would be the best option for trash as being able to totally CC at least 3 mobs is just too strong (and you maybe be able to round-robin CC a few more).

    If you are more than 5boxing then likely I would do more Mages and maybe a 2nd Warrior and/or a 2nd Healer. Two 5boxers working together (or a 10boxer) would be strong with 2Warriors+2Priests+6Mages. Some swaps I would consider would be swapping out the 2nd Warrior for a Druid/Paladin Tank or a Priest for a Druid/Paladin/Shaman Healer and maybe 1 Mage for a Warlock for curse/buff/stones/etc.

    I prefer Paladin Tanks and Druid Tanks for 5mans Dungeon grinding teams but a well geared Warrior does have the highest mitigation, control, & at least single target threat and seems best for raid trash packs that are mostly CCed.
    Last edited by nodoze : Yesterday at 07:12 PM

  8. #228

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    Even with a geared trinity setup using a dedicated tank, you wouldn't be able to farm Naxx trash. The mobs hit too hard for a single healer to keep up.

    To do this farm you need ranged characters that can slow. Which pretty much means mages or warlocks. I'm not certain curse of exhaustion slows mobs enough and if you made one mistake and didn't refresh it quickly enough on a ghoul, you'd die.

    A paladin to hold agro with BoK spam while your mages blizzard would be a pretty solid strategy for alliance boxers. The ghouls have around 95,000HP. If you stacked enough MP5 to use rank 1 blizzard without going OOM, it does 8 ticks of around 50-60 damage depending on gear. 95000/200=475. Around 8 minutes per pull. That's pretty doable. If your gear is good enough to use higher ranks of blizzard, it'd be a lot faster.

    I think PMMMM should be able to manage this as well. With a decent amount of hit rating on your mages plus permafrost, you could just kite around using CoC on cooldown similar to the ZF farm. You'd have to be incredibly unlucky for a ghoul to resist all 4 CoC's.

    Problem is, the trash drops aren't very exciting for casters. There's a really nice nice robe for tank warlocks and a unique fire damage ring. That's about it. Nowhere near as OP as the melee weapons.
    Last edited by Apatheist : Today at 02:57 AM

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