Melee-Cleave Boxing End Game Dungeons

[Mercbeast]

sure I'll get something recorded

just to add my playstyle, I dont do heroic strike/cleave at all just ww/ms so it could be further optimized (although Im rarely floating on rage so i dont think it matters much except on boss fights on the one who has aggro), also no execute on trash mobs and no focus fire, always tab trough mobs and kill them together. The more of them are alive, the more damage-the more rage and then you can keep ww and ms on cooldown and it helps splitting aggro on them. Also no thunder clap unless you got trouble with healing.

Oh and if you can afford it, as soon as you got ravager (which you should have all by 37), put crusader on it, it can procc off the aoe there are scenarios where you benefit from that weapon well beyond 50 (torch room, arena scarabs, strat ...)

Yea, horde gets kind of shafted on ravager, since alliance gets fiery blaze, which is just straight up insanity. Bladestorm can proc off of any damage, including proc damage, and fiery blaze, the alliance only quest enchant, is an aoe that hits all targets in 3 yards. It's pretty typical for an alliance warrior with fiery blaze to start spinning, and then continue spinning until almost everything is dead, as it chains proc after proc after proc after proc.

[Mercbeast]

I also want to say, that horde is without question the superior faction for a 4x warrior group. Windfury totem is going to help with rage starvation in ways that alliance cannot hope to match. This was, in fact, my biggest issue with my warriors. I could have pushed through and continued to gear them out, and I might continue to gear them out at some point in the future, but, the monopolization of rage by one warrior, while the others starved resulted in very shoddy overall DPS. Windfury procs are going to go a LONG way towards helping with those other warriors generating the rage they need.

That isn't to say 4x warriors are not viable alliance side, it's just that, it's going to be an uphill battle, and everything you can do with warriors, you're going to be able to do easier with mages, or other ranged DPS. Of course, later on, as warriors start to scale out of control, this will probably change to where only mages are really comparable.

I'd say if you've got a warrior team, and a mage team, you're pretty much set.

[Apatheist]

Windfury totem is going to help with rage starvation in ways that alliance cannot hope to match..

I don't think anybody disputes that shamans are the best healer for a warrior group. Windfury is amazing.

The reason I went alliance is because paladin synergy with warrior is far superior in wPvP which is mostly what I wanted the team for.

[Mercbeast]

I don't think anybody disputes that shamans are the best healer for a warrior group. Windfury is amazing.

The reason I went alliance is because paladin synergy with warrior is far superior in wPvP which is mostly what I wanted the team for.

I'm alliance 4x warriors too. I was just saying that windfury is going to help that comp a lot more in pve.

[Apatheist]

I'm alliance 4x warriors too. I was just saying that windfury is going to help that comp a lot more in pve.

No doubt. Windfury is pretty amazing and actually makes 2H sort of viable in PvE at 60.

On a side note, have you tried dual wielding fast weapons with your warriors? If rage generation is a problem for you dual wielding two fast weapons is actually fairly good DPS and allows you to pump out a lot more bloodthirsts and heroic strikes/cleaves. Most of your damage comes from white attacks anyway and you can just macro weapon swap to a 2hander for whirlwind.

[nodoze]

I agree that Warriors backed by Paladins are best for PVP.

With top Tier gear in the last Phases Alliance Warriors actually should get caught up on max DPS rankings due to both Might and Kings (and especially Kings since it scales with gear). That being said it it indeed lags until then and most folks, at least in part, run teams to fund mains and that matters most in the early Phases/Tiers so Horde has a distinct advantage in that...

[Mecsican]

Yo Kruschpakx4 !
My 4x War, 1x Sham team is currently level 45 and I've got 5x Ravagers with crusaders, aswell as 5x Executioner's Cleaver. I've kinda hit a leveling wall as I dont see ZF being as effective as I thought it would be. Were you running 1 war as tank, or just everyone as arms/fury? Also I've put in stopaura on all of my dps macros, so that they don't cancel my procs. Do you have any tips? Would be much appriciated. Also after ZF, where did you head off to? ST or BRD? Cheers!

[Mercbeast]

No doubt. Windfury is pretty amazing and actually makes 2H sort of viable in PvE at 60.

On a side note, have you tried dual wielding fast weapons with your warriors? If rage generation is a problem for you dual wielding two fast weapons is actually fairly good DPS and allows you to pump out a lot more bloodthirsts and heroic strikes/cleaves. Most of your damage comes from white attacks anyway and you can just macro weapon swap to a 2hander for whirlwind.

I started to, but I got preoccupied leveling a mage

[Dawkinz]

I'll try to do a video, I haven't even thought about it. There was a period where my team (3 war 1 pally 1 priest) hit 60 where any high level (non DM E, BRD, LBRS) dungeon was rough. Dire Maul North in particular - ouch. I prioritized getting the quest blues (including the DM West 2H weapon which is sick) and once I grabbed all of that the difficulty switch got turned off. I slam through dungeons like they are nothing. I haven't done UD strat yet, I'm going to bang it out tomorrow but everything else has been cleared (other than post-rend UBRS which I'm not even going to bother with). I was worried about 2H tanking bosses (I thought rattlegore, King Gordok, etc. would necessitate a shield etc) but none have been a problem. I didn't get a single HOJ or SGC while leveling through BRD...

[nodoze]

I'll try to do a video, I haven't even thought about it. There was a period where my team (3 war 1 pally 1 priest) hit 60 where any high level (non DM E, BRD, LBRS) dungeon was rough. Dire Maul North in particular - ouch. I prioritized getting the quest blues (including the DM West 2H weapon which is sick) and once I grabbed all of that the difficulty switch got turned off. I slam through dungeons like they are nothing. I haven't done UD strat yet, I'm going to bang it out tomorrow but everything else has been cleared (other than post-rend UBRS which I'm not even going to bother with). I was worried about 2H tanking bosses (I thought rattlegore, King Gordok, etc. would necessitate a shield etc) but none have been a problem. I didn't get a single HOJ or SGC while leveling through BRD...

Twich may help with doing videos and may be easier than Youtube. Never done one but it seems like Twitch may have it built in while youtube you may have to record and then upload. Not really sure and maybe there is already a thread about the easiest way to do videos.

Bottom line is that would be very motivational to finally see some buzzsaw action.

More diversity in strong boxing options is great for the community.