This is the Pvp part:
Well, the thing is as I've suspected with lack of any real aoe.
The gcd value of mages are just above anything else (in classic) due to aoe having no limitations. The warlocks can only dot and you need at least 2 set of dots to kill some one. During those time frames of applying 2 dots you're faced with several things.
You can't do more dmg then one target. The enemy(enemies) will overwhelm you really hard. I have around 5k health and I still drop super fast vs 2 combined melee. The warlock don't have nothing really vs melee where mages have ice armor which reduces melee attack speed by 30% which is alot.
Take into motion that 4x mage and disc with solid gear and arcane power can dish with luck 3k dmg across 10 yards to everyone. You just need 2 gcds to wipe 5 or 500 enemies. Something warlocks will never be able to do even if you Hellfire, you'll still take ton of dmg.
With warlocks, you're extremely susceptible to dispell and I've faced that more then once. I feel like I can't kill anyone with dots if there is dispeller and I've manually have to target everyone and his mother to survive (if that even).
And then there is a fact of people survivging more then 5 sec, you're going to crumble inevitably. I'ts race always. Race to finish the fight and if you finish the fight you heal up in 10 sec and you're ready to nuke out.
Then you have instant pyro which 100% kills 2 people (2x 2) in a blink of an eye. Fireblast with ignite is also really nice. Cone of Cold. All instants, so you cna't be interrupted. And for the last, improved counterspell will just shred all casters and deny anything being done to you. Not to mention for warlock you have to have specific pet out and pets are super duper clunky in classic (thank you blizz for spell junk).
Pve:
So far I think warlocks are way better then mages in pve due to fact you can actually stack all dots and then cross shadowbolt. I've literally had no issues in any dungeons that I've did (gave up on locks 1 days into 60).
But seeing as the ignite mechanic is just straight up op, I am fairly convinced that precasted Pyroblast>Fireball>Scorch (talented)>Instant Pyroblast with Arcane Power>Fireblast>spam arcane explosion> can actually deal up to 50k dmg within 10 sec of time (not counting the the precasted Pyroblast).
This is for Pve specc which would look something like this:
https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...5052000123-002
I'll soon be 60 so keep watching me and I'll stream BRD full runs, Strat,Scholo and super fast DM Trib runs for gold (and gear). Expect insane amount of pvp within week or so.
Me and Kruschpak went thru alot of min max what is best and I think we both agreed on mages and shamans overall being kings in Classic (shamans bit later on with aq patch>ele )
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