Big nerfs on Demo Shout on Warriors

[rosuto]

Just correcting him, he claims no one ever spammed demo shout for threat and he is just plain wrong. When the pulls are big, it is still way worth it. I am still able to do it post nerf, no extra hit threat. I don't think a lot of the stuff in his video will work, I have already seen some stuff take prio over thorns for example, and then thorns has no effect.

I mean, I never claimed that, but OK.


I'll extrapolate a bit. "Demo never provided that much threat in Vanilla or on Pservers", I don't think you're arguing with that part of my statement (43 at max rank). The issue is the last part of my comment correct? Let me clarify, there are situations where Demo is good, when pulling very large groups for example. I never said Demo Shout is never used, but that typically it isn't worth it. (Pulling 30+ mobs in Tier 3 with 10 consumables and Thunderfury is not a common situation).

Battle Shout max rank generates 70 threat per target in combat being buffed, including pets. Lets say X is numbers of people buffed you're a WLMMP that's 6. Y is the number of enemies. If Y is more than 10, Demo Shout is better, but if Y is less than 10, Battle Shout is better as Demo is a static 43 buffed to 64 from Defensive Stance and Defiance. If there is no pet involved, it becomes 8 enemies.

(70 * 1.3 * 1.15 * X)/Y