Big nerfs on Demo Shout on Warriors

[Kojiiko]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...meta/295678/64


Hi All,
We have identified a fix for an issue that was causing Demoralizing Shout/Roar to generate too much threat when applied to multiple enemies. In addition, we’ve also identified a fix for a separate issue that was causing Battle Shout and most healing spells, effects, and buffs to incorrectly split the threat they generate between enemies that had members of the buffed party on their threat list.
Hotfixes for these issues are going to be deployed very soon, at which time all of these effects will match their functionality in the 1.12 reference client.


So will be rerolling for a mage or a lock instead of the warrior?

[Mercbeast]

Don't wanna jump the gun, but I believe they've already pushed it. Demo isn't generating really any threat for me now, battleshout is. So, ymmv but, you might wanna swap your warrior tanks over to primarily spamming battleshout instead of demo.

[Kojiiko]

Don't wanna jump the gun, but I believe they've already pushed it. Demo isn't generating really any threat for me now, battleshout is. So, ymmv but, you might wanna swap your warrior tanks over to primarily spamming battleshout instead of demo.

Ill contiune with the combo and even just make to 35 i can just create them alchemist and tailroing alts we shall see....

[Sheiken]

I can confirm that my team of Warrior, Priest and 3x mage has alot more difficulty in RFC compared to last night doing AE spam. I am using Demo shout as threat generator and today i cant hold AOE aggro for shit with my warrior.. Sad day for my comp and might have to look at either stick to single pulling or another comp.

[Andreauk]

Try a Druid tank if you ever swap - I went to farm Deadmines trash at 15 and it kept aggro off my x3 Mages and heal Priest.

[Apatheist]

The ease with which people were holding threat on their warriors seemed wrong to me from the start.

Warrior spamming demo/battle should be enough to gain initial agro and keep mobs off healers and light DPS. It shouldn't be enough by itself to out-TPS full AE DPS spam.

This is why stacking consumables and buffs like ret aura/fire shield was so important for generating high AE TPS.

[Drakhoun]

I use single pull when mobs are yellow. When mobs are green, warrior just runs in and get initial aggro and mages spam AE. Priest spams flash heals.

[MTSkibum]

Bummer that they nerfed it before i was high enough level to abuse it.

[Mercbeast]

The ease with which people were holding threat on their warriors seemed wrong to me from the start.

Warrior spamming demo/battle should be enough to gain initial agro and keep mobs off healers and light DPS. It shouldn't be enough by itself to out-TPS full AE DPS spam.

This is why stacking consumables and buffs like ret aura/fire shield was so important for generating high AE TPS.

The issue is, this is actually how it was in classic at this point.

The other issue is, they are targeting this "fix" as a way to fix the "aoe meta", but it just demonstrates a total lack of understanding of what is happening. This is only going to push people towards mage based aoe even more. The best/most efficient groups were already 3 or 4 mages, with 1 warlock and a healer. Now, threat generation is even more difficult for warriors, which makes them even less desirable, so, if groups were already NOT taking tanks when they could generate threat, why would they take tanks at all now when they can't, and they are not needed?

[Kraxx]

Give blizzard some more weeks and we will see some more hidden class balancing "fixes"
In 6months druids will be meta tank^^

all vanilla versions are equal but some vanilla versions are more equal than others