How's Everyone Progressing so Far and What's Your Group Comp?

[Earshy]

Enter dungeon -> kill -> reset -> repeat. In my personal opinion any minute spent outside a dungeon is wasted. I do zero quests and I vendor everything. In the time that I walk to the AH and back I can do 2 dungeon runs and make more gold and XP.

Hey, Vipeax - any chance you would be willing to share which dungeons you were hitting at what level for the best xp? I'm running a 5 box shaman crew right now and they're only 26. I've been busting my ass questing and grinding dungeons sounds like a welcome change. I just tried RFK. I was able to kill all of the elites, and got to the first boss (Deathspeaker) and got him to like 5%. It seemed super inefficient though. Some of the 30-31 elites took a lot of my mana to kill and I had to drink after each kill. Anyway, if you can shed any light on the subject I'd appreciate it.

[Vipeax]

Hey, Vipeax - any chance you would be willing to share which dungeons you were hitting at what level for the best xp? I'm running a 5 box shaman crew right now and they're only 26. I've been busting my ass questing and grinding dungeons sounds like a welcome change. I just tried RFK. I was able to kill all of the elites, and got to the first boss (Deathspeaker) and got him to like 5%. It seemed super inefficient though. Some of the 30-31 elites took a lot of my mana to kill and I had to drink after each kill. Anyway, if you can shed any light on the subject I'd appreciate it.

You always want to be at least 1 level above your enemies and farm until they turn gray. They give less XP/mob, but your survivability increases a lot due to defense level (= bigger pulls) and less resists/misses due to the level difference. I did RFC until 18. WC until 22. Farmed the circle until the Commander boss (the silencing humanoids) in SFK until 25 or 26. Did the rest of the instance until 27. BFD for 2 levels. RFK the boar gauntlet farm until I felt comfortable killing the rest of the dungeon. I would do a normal clear until the bat cave and then jump down there to do the boar gauntlet on my way out of the dungeon. After that it's SM GY until you are comfortable with Library. Armory is not worth it for clothies, might be ok for shamans too. Cath can be farmed until 43-44.

Forcing yourself to kill higher yellow (your level +1 or +2) or even worse, orange, mobs is never faster. It simply never is. Don't even bother.

Bosses also aren't worth it unless you need the gear they drop. SM library is a perfect example. As soon as you have the gear you want from the last boss killing him takes as long as the first 2 rooms in the dungeon. I get more gold and XP simply going back in and starting over. The hound guy is never worth it.

[Earshy]

Right on. Thank you for the reply. I was killing red elites in RFK and it was atrocious. I'll have to go check out SFK again. I did a full run earlier and couldn't get Arugal because of his teleporting and charming BS, so I moved on. Up until Aurgal though was cake. Thanks again!

Good point about the bosses. Appreciate that edit!

[Vipeax]

Actually the SFK numbers may be off. I did it until the first mobs were gray.

[Earshy]

I'd kinda written SFK off because of all the green mobs - so they're still good to go as greens? I guess the real game here is kill volume, regardless of level?

[Vipeax]

Killing 3 packs of 10 mobs that give 70 XP (2100 total) each beats killing 2 packs of 10 mobs giving 90 xp (1800). Add to that that a single corpse run in 1 hour means you lose more XP/hr than you will ever gain from doing more difficult mobs.

[Earshy]

That really puts questing vs instances in to perspective. I'm getting 2100xp per quest right now in Thousand Needles. The quests certainly take longer than killing 30 mobs in SFK...

[Vipeax]

That really puts questing vs instances in to perspective. I'm getting 2100xp per quest right now in Thousand Needles. The quests certainly take longer than killing 30 mobs in SFK...

Leveling outside dungeons means you get less XP and you will be broke. I just hit level 44. I had all 5 characters mounted as soon as I hit level 40 and I'm currently back to ~400g again.

[Earshy]

Yeah, that's impressive. I'm 26.5 right now and I have like 60g to my name. I feel like I'm doing alright but I can see how instances would bring a lot more gold.

[Lewsifur]

I haven't been very impressed with locks so far.. no aoe yet but did clear the trash np all the way to the first boss in RFC.. but the first boss ate my voidwalkers for breakfast - this was at level 15.

Have swapped to an Undead team of Warrior tank, Priest healer, x2 Mages and a Warlock.. killing things far faster now.

Big thumbs up to Dalo - that clique heal vid was awesome.. can heal from the main now

That does t bode well. I finally reached ten tonight. Did you have multiple voids up and repet or did he just chew threw them all?