Discussion: 3 mage+tank+healer teams

[Hksix]

Here is a short clip from the most recent stress test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABMd...ature=youtu.be

[Apatheist]

Here is a short clip from the most recent stress test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABMd...ature=youtu.be

Are you using battle shout for threat here? I can't see it on your buffs but you're keeping threat off your healer somehow.

Last I heard battle shout threat wasn't working. Great news if it's fixed.

[Hksix]

I only used bloodrage in that clip. The nice thing about pally healers is their heals do 50% less threat than other healers. I'm unsure if battle shout is doing the correct amount of threat but it definitely was doing threat

[Apatheist]

I only used bloodrage in that clip. The nice thing about pally healers is their heals do 50% less threat than other healers. I'm unsure if battle shout is doing the correct amount of threat but it definitely was doing threat

I'm not aware of paladins having any innate threat reduction on their heals. They should cause the same threat as any other healer AFAIK.

At 0:15 - 0:20 you pulled 6 mobs and damaged 2 of them with your warrior with a few auto attacks and a heroic strike. Paladin healed the warrior with holy light for about 40% of his health (88HP) which should have agrod the other 4 mobs. You don't have demo shout or ret aura yet and you didn't cast battle shout. I can't figure out how you're holding threat on everything.

Weird. I must be missing something.

[Hksix]

I'm not aware of paladins having any innate threat reduction on their heals. They should cause the same threat as any other healer AFAIK.

At 0:15 - 0:20 you pulled 6 mobs and damaged 2 of them with your warrior with a few auto attacks and a heroic strike. Paladin healed the warrior with holy light for about 40% of his health (88HP) which should have agrod the other 4 mobs. You don't have demo shout or ret aura yet and you didn't cast battle shout. I can't figure out how you're holding threat on everything.

Weird. I must be missing something.

“Paladins receive 50% threat from healing compared to other healers. This is designed to stop them tanking instances by healing everything in sight. As a side affect, this gives them a decent advantage over other healers where healing threat is an issue.”

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=16499

but yeah, in that clip specifically I’m not sure why the healer didn’t get threat because I used blood rage kinda late

Also 1 other thing is that I was easily able to make 5 wands (which is extra) by level 12 by just DEing the greens I found while killing murlocs

[Apatheist]

“Paladins receive 50% threat from healing compared to other healers. This is designed to stop them tanking instances by healing everything in sight. As a side affect, this gives them a decent advantage over other healers where healing threat is an issue.”

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=16499

but yeah, in that clip specifically I’m not sure why the healer didn’t get threat because I used blood rage kinda late

Also 1 other thing is that I was easily able to make 5 wands (which is extra) by level 12 by just DEing the greens I found while killing murlocs

I played horde during vanilla so I'm not an expert on paladins by any means but it's weird I've never heard of that! Can't find it documented anywhere official and there are no passive abilities I can see that reduce threat.

I gave up trying to figure it out. Strange mechanics.

[nodoze]

“Paladins receive 50% threat from healing compared to other healers. This is designed to stop them tanking instances by healing everything in sight. As a side affect, this gives them a decent advantage over other healers where healing threat is an issue.”
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=16499 ...

I played horde during vanilla so I'm not an expert on paladins by any means but it's weird I've never heard of that! Can't find it documented anywhere official and there are no passive abilities I can see that reduce threat. ...

I was aware that due to Paladins the Alliance Faction had a significant (30%) Threat advantage due to being able to put Blessing of Salvation on non-Tanks. This can be partially off-set by the Horde Faction via a 20% reduction via a Shaman's Tranquil Air Totem though that needs placement management.

I had not heard that Paladins had an innate passive -50% Threat compared to other healers and if true is a big factor that I have not heard mentioned in many discussions comparing healers...

I did some research and could not find anything official indicating that a 50% healing threat reduction passive for Paladins was for sure in WoW Vanilla nor that it would for sure be in Classic. That being said I did find some other references that mention it besides nostalrius.org such as:

https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Threat

The above indicates that Paladins get a .5 passive healing reduction on top of baseline .5 healing modifier (so .25). Interestingly it also mentions that Rogues get a .71 passive reduction as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/...wisdom_threat/

The above also mentions a .25 healing threat modifier for Paladins. The discussion was on both Judgement of Light and Wisdom though that reply indicated the .25 was for all Paladin healing. Also interesting was that it indicated that Paladins also gained threat from mana regen from Judgement of Wisdom though it indicates that was removed after BWL was introduced so it should be a non factor in 1.12.

[Redacted]

The above has a great discussion of Paladin threat but it seems to indicate in testing a 50% threat from healing (not 25%).

Bottom line is that I would love to find an official source on Paladins receiving only .25 from Healing. I couldn't anything about that in Wowhead classic which is my favorite wiki for WoW.



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[Hksix]

Stockades run (quick clip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3TE...ature=youtu.be

[dalo199]

The Tank 3xMage Healer combo is so much fun I am loving it... just hit 23 today!!

Cool stocks video as well