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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    Cats have always been hard to derp-macro. ISBoxer's steps make it a LOT easier, though it's still much like rogues in that it's an energy management and timing game.

    Can't disagree on the deadzone issue, though the DPS as I recall was mostly a gear thing in vanilla. What spec are you running? If pets are causing wipes I suspect you're doing it wrong. See next comment.

    Question: are you making use of a /stopmacro statement at the top of your DPS macros? If you are not, this is why you are randomly pulling stuff. Pet classes suffer from this where normal melee (I think) and casters do not.
    What type of DPS macro do you suggest that can have stop macro.. with the Vanilla API's on private server it has to be very simple DPS macro

    I am simply running-

    /assist 'TANK'
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt

    The issue with pets causing wipes is simply that something in the background is targeted and my dps macro is pressed they will run off into the distance and start attacking them causing a bunch of adds to charge at me once the pet is dead

    Obviously I can simply take the /script PetAttack() out and get them to attack manually with a different key but this would drop the DPS they are doing a fair bit and add more complexity to an already complex process

    So its a trade off of more dps vs the occasional wipe... if i just had another mage it wouldn't be an issue

    The Classic API's are going to be a lot different with much more flexibility in macros however so I understand that these issues may not even exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    The Holy Pally is ok I don't even use Salv I use Kings on the group and Light on the tank as keeping aggro isn't that hard if your a decent tank... I just feel that overall the priest is the better option with things like Renew, PWS, shackle and Fort. Pally seems decent enough though.

    Tank Warrior is purely protection... with all the DPS from your other characters no reason to make him a dps spec as well

    Hope that helps

    Would a video of my running through some of BRD help? I'm really struggling the lyceum at the moment I wish i had more mages hah
    Thank you for this reply. Yes, can you please send me your run of BRD ? Thank you !

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    here you guys have a quest list for each dungeon found it on reddit

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1019580485

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    What type of DPS macro do you suggest that can have stop macro.. with the Vanilla API's on private server it has to be very simple DPS macro

    I am simply running-

    /assist 'TANK'
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt

    The issue with pets causing wipes is simply that something in the background is targeted and my dps macro is pressed they will run off into the distance and start attacking them causing a bunch of adds to charge at me once the pet is dead

    Obviously I can simply take the /script PetAttack() out and get them to attack manually with a different key but this would drop the DPS they are doing a fair bit and add more complexity to an already complex process

    So its a trade off of more dps vs the occasional wipe... if i just had another mage it wouldn't be an issue
    My version of your macro would be:
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    /assist 'TANK'
    /stopmacro [flying][noharm][channeling]
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt
    That is what I use on all of my combat macros (it's at the top of my 6 combat macros that all characters use for DPS). It requires you to have an explicit target before it does anything aside from /assist. The problem is auto-targeting -- there are commands that will auto-target if you don't have a target. You are, however, correct that if you just want to do what the bot-farmers do and just stand there and faceroll while watching netflix and have them just automagically target all the things, then yeah, the /stopmacro thing will prevent that. Guess you just have to decide where you want your trade-offs. Also, this strategery is what I use in retail and have since...well, as long as I can remember. I doubt you're gonna get much of an improvement in Classic without doing some thinking about the fundamental design. You could, for example, set up a separate DPS key that you could spam that didn't have the stopmacro in it so they would continue to do promiscuous targeting. Probably a good idea to have the "locked down" version with /stopmacro for those times when you know you're gonna have a bad day if they perform some accidental public relations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    My version of your macro would be:
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    /assist 'TANK'
    /stopmacro [flying][noharm][channeling]
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt
    That is what I use on all of my combat macros (it's at the top of my 6 combat macros that all characters use for DPS). It requires you to have an explicit target before it does anything aside from /assist. The problem is auto-targeting -- there are commands that will auto-target if you don't have a target. You are, however, correct that if you just want to do what the bot-farmers do and just stand there and faceroll while watching netflix and have them just automagically target all the things, then yeah, the /stopmacro thing will prevent that. Guess you just have to decide where you want your trade-offs. Also, this strategery is what I use in retail and have since...well, as long as I can remember. I doubt you're gonna get much of an improvement in Classic without doing some thinking about the fundamental design. You could, for example, set up a separate DPS key that you could spam that didn't have the stopmacro in it so they would continue to do promiscuous targeting. Probably a good idea to have the "locked down" version with /stopmacro for those times when you know you're gonna have a bad day if they perform some accidental public relations.
    Awesome thanks for that... testing it out now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    accidental public relations.
    Gave me a laugh, great way to characterize this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jardinier View Post
    Thank you for this reply. Yes, can you please send me your run of BRD ? Thank you !
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    Just a short one up to Angerforge

    Tank died at one point when I messed up only thinking it was a 3 pull but there were 4 mobs and my healer went oom

    Lots of stuff I can be doing better I want to set up a macro to come out of bear form and drink a health pot as well as coming out of bear form and innervating the healer.. stuff like that

    Interested to hear thoughts on how I can improve and things to test... I still cant get through the lyceum
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    Promotion of private servers is not allowed on this forum; please do not link to private server gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    Promotion of private servers is not allowed on this forum; please do not link to private server gameplay.
    Apologies didn't realise.. wont happen again

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    Quote Originally Posted by envio11 View Post
    Why are you talking like my intent was to play with others? I stated that I want to solo 5 multibox dungeons, so others availability is not my concern. I leveled mage on private server (the most popular one) 3 months ago 1-60, took me 8 days played and it was damn painfull, there is NO WAY someone will AOE grind once classic hits, because areas will be overcrowded same/more and simply there are too many people around to aoe grind.

    About grinding 1 mob at a time, I would get bored within 40 mins and quit so thats not for me.

    4 and half days played to 60 in 2005? You must have been one of the first people to hit 60 worldwide..

    I heard melee cleave is the easiest to multibox, but I really want to main mage on 60 and raid with him and 3 warrs + priest + mage is bad combo right? You either go melee cleave or spell cleave

    Could you share some numbers? Like xp/hr when 5 multiboxing a dungeon? I know that Ive hit avg 16k xp solo questing and that was when I really did my best.

    Also there is one thing everyone is missing when it comes to dung multiboxing is that on private servers the exp from elites in dungeons are LESS than on original classic beta for comparision (on beta it was 250% normal xp on private server more like 175%) not to mention mobs are overtuned on private servers to make dung's harder
    I was the 2nd shaman to 60 world wide (I had a bunch of world firsts in beta as well, and from about 1999 to 2011, I was often involved in level races in various MMOs in other words I was a full re level grinder ). I can assure you people will aoe grind. The first people to cap on any given server will almost certainly being aoe grinding to some extent. Be it a hunter spamming multishot etc, or a warrior using their AOEs, or a mage aoe grinding down 20 mobs at a time with frost nova and blizzard.

    There are also solid aoe grind spots off the beaten path, I will agree that, solo grinding (aoe grinding if possible) is not going to be very viable if you're caught up with the rush. However, a month or so in, if that's what you want to do, it will be viable, like for a Paladin. Paladins can aoe grind like CRAZY once there is a mature economy to provide the tools they need.

    Anyways, my ranking of leveling speed was just to give a general overview, this is about MBing after all isn't it? I actually considered the group you're considering. 3 Warriors 1 Mage 1 Priest. It will be fine. You'd play either the mage or the priest. The mage brings a lot to the group, and while you're a mana sloot, you will make up for having to drink now and then, with things like, summoned water/food and portals. Which will ease your ability to move your group around tremendously. Not only that, but a mage brings a TON of aoe damage to the group, as well as control.

    You're right about how vanilla private servers overtuned dungeons. People forget that dungeons in WoW classic were largely completely faceroll until Diremaul. Diremaul WAS hard, and until you out geared it, it pretty much required a lot of very careful CC management.

    It's been so long since I was level racing in WoW that I couldn't tell you XP per hour numbers. Just rough /played numbers. I've posted in another thread my intended dungeon path, I haven't settled on alliance vs horde yet, but it will be basically stockades/rfc->sfk->sm-BRD /fin. I might throw uldaman in for a few levels to bridge from SM to BRD. I might also go to LBRS at 58 for a change of pace.

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