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envio11 5 Chars Dungeon Powerleveling... 07-15-2019, 03:21 AM
SinusQuell 1) I would just run them all... 07-15-2019, 05:10 AM
envio11 Is it really that much... 07-15-2019, 07:18 AM
SinusQuell I think dungeons are only... 07-15-2019, 10:23 AM
Mercbeast For classic, keep in mind... 07-16-2019, 08:36 PM
envio11 Why are you talking like my... 07-17-2019, 03:38 AM
Apatheist It's not a "bad" comp. It's... 07-17-2019, 09:02 AM
JeffScott What about running with a... 08-01-2019, 08:48 AM
Fuzzyboy Excellent video on the topic... 07-15-2019, 12:41 PM
envio11 Judging by this video, it... 07-16-2019, 02:21 AM
xandorz I am pretty sure you are not... 07-17-2019, 09:28 AM
MiRai Correct, and I've already... 07-17-2019, 10:24 AM
envio11 sorry for that 07-17-2019, 01:25 PM
dalo199 Hi All, I have been... 07-17-2019, 10:35 PM
envio11 Bro could you answer me some... 07-18-2019, 02:13 AM
dalo199 Level 10 seems way too low... 07-18-2019, 07:45 PM
Jardinier Wow good post interesting... 07-18-2019, 04:24 AM
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dalo199 [Link Removed] Just a... 07-21-2019, 07:16 PM
Ughmahedhurtz Cats have always been hard to... 07-18-2019, 08:39 PM
dalo199 What type of DPS macro do you... 07-18-2019, 09:00 PM
Ughmahedhurtz My version of your macro... 07-19-2019, 05:32 AM
dalo199 Awesome thanks for that...... 07-19-2019, 09:24 PM
Sservis Gave me a laugh, great way to... 07-20-2019, 10:39 PM
Fuzzyboy Just came across this... 07-18-2019, 07:12 AM
envio11 yea already seen it this... 07-18-2019, 08:57 AM
Hksix I’m going with an aoe mage... 07-18-2019, 04:50 PM
envio11 here you guys have a quest... 07-19-2019, 02:12 AM
boneapetight With all these warrior teams,... 07-28-2019, 09:52 PM
Jwoz I was skimming Reddit today... 07-30-2019, 09:13 PM
Dawkinz The issue with warriors will... 07-31-2019, 11:05 AM
Apatheist You macro stances into... 07-31-2019, 05:05 PM
boneapetight Each warrior will proc... 07-31-2019, 09:05 PM
Apatheist [/LIST] Overpower was... 08-04-2019, 09:40 AM
Mooni Seeing a lot of questions... 08-01-2019, 03:12 AM
xandorz Does that actually work or... 08-01-2019, 04:08 AM
mrdsp Can I sidestep a little and... 08-01-2019, 04:23 AM
Moorea I did all the dungeons at... 08-02-2019, 09:30 PM
Apatheist It doesn't. Holy nova is... 08-04-2019, 05:10 PM
Uhnknown I don't know that i'd call... 08-04-2019, 05:27 PM
Apatheist There are some niche uses for... 08-05-2019, 09:45 AM
Tsazao https://classic.wowhead.com/ta... 08-02-2019, 09:11 PM
tandria As far as I could find out... 08-06-2019, 05:09 AM
Apatheist You're correct. Pyroclasm has... 08-06-2019, 09:07 AM
Peregrine I was pondering heavily what... 08-04-2019, 02:12 PM
flou Hi, Relatively new to... 08-06-2019, 07:43 AM
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flou 2 teams in retail: - 5 bm... 08-06-2019, 12:54 PM
xandorz I would use a druid instead... 08-06-2019, 12:49 PM
manufactured I have done a lot of vanilla... 08-08-2019, 06:06 PM
Acidburning My first/ main team will be... 08-08-2019, 10:24 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    The druid tank seems very good at tanking multiple mobs with swipe better than my warrior can but lacks the survivability. In cat its hard to do very good dps especially without castsequence in the old API
    Cats have always been hard to derp-macro. ISBoxer's steps make it a LOT easier, though it's still much like rogues in that it's an energy management and timing game.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    The hunter dead zone was a nightmare and I've cut him completely as his dps was bad. The pet was handy as an off tank but like the warlock pet caused some annoying wipes.
    Can't disagree on the deadzone issue, though the DPS as I recall was mostly a gear thing in vanilla. What spec are you running? If pets are causing wipes I suspect you're doing it wrong. See next comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    The Warlock is spamming Shadow Bolt and without castsequence in the API its hard to weave in life taps and goes OOM very quickly. The pet is a pain cos even though i have it on passive I have a /assist /petattack in the dps macro and it seems to pull random packs itself at certain times. This may be a private server issue but it causes wipes.
    Question: are you making use of a /stopmacro statement at the top of your DPS macros? If you are not, this is why you are randomly pulling stuff. Pet classes suffer from this where normal melee (I think) and casters do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    Cats have always been hard to derp-macro. ISBoxer's steps make it a LOT easier, though it's still much like rogues in that it's an energy management and timing game.

    Can't disagree on the deadzone issue, though the DPS as I recall was mostly a gear thing in vanilla. What spec are you running? If pets are causing wipes I suspect you're doing it wrong. See next comment.

    Question: are you making use of a /stopmacro statement at the top of your DPS macros? If you are not, this is why you are randomly pulling stuff. Pet classes suffer from this where normal melee (I think) and casters do not.
    What type of DPS macro do you suggest that can have stop macro.. with the Vanilla API's on private server it has to be very simple DPS macro

    I am simply running-

    /assist 'TANK'
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt

    The issue with pets causing wipes is simply that something in the background is targeted and my dps macro is pressed they will run off into the distance and start attacking them causing a bunch of adds to charge at me once the pet is dead

    Obviously I can simply take the /script PetAttack() out and get them to attack manually with a different key but this would drop the DPS they are doing a fair bit and add more complexity to an already complex process

    So its a trade off of more dps vs the occasional wipe... if i just had another mage it wouldn't be an issue

    The Classic API's are going to be a lot different with much more flexibility in macros however so I understand that these issues may not even exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalo199 View Post
    What type of DPS macro do you suggest that can have stop macro.. with the Vanilla API's on private server it has to be very simple DPS macro

    I am simply running-

    /assist 'TANK'
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt

    The issue with pets causing wipes is simply that something in the background is targeted and my dps macro is pressed they will run off into the distance and start attacking them causing a bunch of adds to charge at me once the pet is dead

    Obviously I can simply take the /script PetAttack() out and get them to attack manually with a different key but this would drop the DPS they are doing a fair bit and add more complexity to an already complex process

    So its a trade off of more dps vs the occasional wipe... if i just had another mage it wouldn't be an issue
    My version of your macro would be:
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    /assist 'TANK'
    /stopmacro [flying][noharm][channeling]
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt
    That is what I use on all of my combat macros (it's at the top of my 6 combat macros that all characters use for DPS). It requires you to have an explicit target before it does anything aside from /assist. The problem is auto-targeting -- there are commands that will auto-target if you don't have a target. You are, however, correct that if you just want to do what the bot-farmers do and just stand there and faceroll while watching netflix and have them just automagically target all the things, then yeah, the /stopmacro thing will prevent that. Guess you just have to decide where you want your trade-offs. Also, this strategery is what I use in retail and have since...well, as long as I can remember. I doubt you're gonna get much of an improvement in Classic without doing some thinking about the fundamental design. You could, for example, set up a separate DPS key that you could spam that didn't have the stopmacro in it so they would continue to do promiscuous targeting. Probably a good idea to have the "locked down" version with /stopmacro for those times when you know you're gonna have a bad day if they perform some accidental public relations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    My version of your macro would be:
    Code:
    /assist 'TANK'
    /stopmacro [flying][noharm][channeling]
    /script PetAttack()
    /cast Shadow Bolt
    That is what I use on all of my combat macros (it's at the top of my 6 combat macros that all characters use for DPS). It requires you to have an explicit target before it does anything aside from /assist. The problem is auto-targeting -- there are commands that will auto-target if you don't have a target. You are, however, correct that if you just want to do what the bot-farmers do and just stand there and faceroll while watching netflix and have them just automagically target all the things, then yeah, the /stopmacro thing will prevent that. Guess you just have to decide where you want your trade-offs. Also, this strategery is what I use in retail and have since...well, as long as I can remember. I doubt you're gonna get much of an improvement in Classic without doing some thinking about the fundamental design. You could, for example, set up a separate DPS key that you could spam that didn't have the stopmacro in it so they would continue to do promiscuous targeting. Probably a good idea to have the "locked down" version with /stopmacro for those times when you know you're gonna have a bad day if they perform some accidental public relations.
    Awesome thanks for that... testing it out now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    accidental public relations.
    Gave me a laugh, great way to characterize this.

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    Just came across this excellent post on the classicwow subreddit - it's related to dungeon levelling: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/...eveling_notes/
    Classic - Pyrewood Village, Horde, EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy View Post
    Just came across this excellent post on the classicwow subreddit - it's related to dungeon levelling: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/...eveling_notes/
    yea already seen it this morning, thanks for sharing it here tho!

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    I’m going with an aoe mage team as well. The mage will be my main raider. 3 mage + tank + paladin healer. I can’t decide between warrior or paladin tank. I want to go warrior because of better gear potential from raiding in our alt raid, but paladin in general is a bit better for holding aoe threat. Hmm..

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    here you guys have a quest list for each dungeon found it on reddit

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1019580485

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