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    Default boxing and classic and avoir to lose the progress (ban)

    Hi guys,

    First, thanks a lot for all the topics you discuss about classic multi boxing. I think I read each post on each topics here, especially about class synergies, and because I would like to optimize the leveling so I think I will pick 5 different classes (tankadin, mage, moonkin, lock and HPriest).

    But I’am afraid of one thing : being banned and to lose all my progress.

    So I created a new B.Net account with 5 WoW account to test things on retail. I created my script with AHK (I gave just a sample (not all the keys ofc) at the bottom of the post) to do simple things, mostly send 1 key to each wow window, and trying to protect from double keypresses. And I would be happy if you could check my simple script to tell me if I risk a ban or not.

    Also, I bought ISBoxer but never launched it for the same reason. I think that If I keep it simple, I will not get banned. Do you think using it is better than the AHK Script ?

    Thanks a lot, and see you in Azeroth !!!

    Nuggets

    TLDR ; New to multiboxing. Focus on vanilla. Currently testing my setup on retail. Can my script get me banned ?

    Code:
    WinGet, wowid, List, World of Warcraft
    ; The following function centers the specified window on the screen:
    CenterWindow(WinTitle)
    {
        WinGetPos,,, Width, Height, %WinTitle%
        WinMove, %WinTitle%,, (A_ScreenWidth/2)-(Width/2), (A_ScreenHeight/2)-(Height/2), A_ScreenWidth/2,A_ScreenHeight/2
    ; 
    }
    upright(WinTitle)
    {
        WinGetPos,,, Width, Height, %WinTitle%
        WinMove, %WinTitle%,, (A_ScreenWidth)-(Width),0, A_ScreenWidth/2,A_ScreenHeight/2
    ; 
    }
    upleft(WinTitle)
    {
        WinGetPos,,, Width, Height, %WinTitle%
        WinMove, %WinTitle%,, 0, 0, A_ScreenWidth/2,A_ScreenHeight/2
    ; 
    }
    downright(WinTitle)
    {
        WinGetPos,,, Width, Height, %WinTitle%
        WinMove, %WinTitle%,, (A_ScreenWidth)-(Width), (A_ScreenHeight)-(Height), A_ScreenWidth/2,A_ScreenHeight/2
    ; 
    }
    downleft(WinTitle)
    {
        WinGetPos,,, Width, Height, %WinTitle%
        WinMove, %WinTitle%,, 0, (A_ScreenHeight)-(Height), A_ScreenWidth/2,A_ScreenHeight/2
    ; 
    }
    
    WinWait, ahk_id %wowid1%
    ;WinMove, 0, 0  ; 
    CenterWindow(ahk_id %wowid1%),
    
    WinWait, ahk_id %wowid2%
    ;WinMove, 0, 0
    upright(ahk_id %wowid2%),
    
    WinWait, ahk_id %wowid3%
    ;WinMove, 0, 0
    upleft(ahk_id %wowid3%),
    
    WinWait, ahk_id %wowid4%
    ;WinMove, 0, 0
    downright(ahk_id %wowid4%),
    
    WinWait, ahk_id %wowid5%
    ;WinMove, 0, 0
    downleft(ahk_id %wowid5%),
    
    ~&:: 
    
    KeyWait &, D
    
    IfWinActive, ahk_id %wowid1% 
    
    { 
    
    ControlSend,, &, ahk_id %wowid2% 
    ControlSend,, &, ahk_id %wowid3%
    ControlSend,, &, ahk_id %wowid4%
    ControlSend,, &, ahk_id %wowid5%
    
    Return 
    sleep 100
    }
    
    ~é:: 
    
    KeyWait é, D
    
    IfWinActive, ahk_id %wowid1% 
    
    { 
    ControlSend,, é, ahk_id %wowid2% 
    ControlSend,, é, ahk_id %wowid3%
    ControlSend,, é, ahk_id %wowid4%
    ControlSend,, é, ahk_id %wowid5%
    
    Return 
    sleep 100
    }
    
    ~Backspace:: 
    KeyWait Backspace, D
    
    IfWinActive, ahk_id %wowid1% 
    
    { 
    ControlSend,, {Backspace}, ahk_id %wowid2% 
    ControlSend,, {Backspace}, ahk_id %wowid3%
    ControlSend,, {Backspace}, ahk_id %wowid4%
    ControlSend,, {Backspace}, ahk_id %wowid5%
    Return 
    sleep 100
    }
    
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    Last edited by MiRai : 06-14-2019 at 11:29 AM Reason: [CODE] Tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    But I’am afraid of one thing : being banned and to lose all my progress.
    Why do you believe you will be banned for multiboxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    Also, I bought ISBoxer but never launched it for the same reason. I think that If I keep it simple, I will not get banned.
    I am not sure I understand this line: You bought ISBoxer, but never used it because you were afraid you'd get banned for using ISBoxer? If that's what you mean, then what makes you believe you'll be banned for using ISBoxer?

    If your answer to either of the above replies of mine are, "I don't know," then it will be difficult to continue this conversation, other than you just taking our word that you won't be banned for using it. Do you trust a program that has been around for 10 years, is marketed as "not a bot," and has hundreds, if not thousands of multiboxing videos posted on YouTube where people outright tell their audience that they're using it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    Do you think using it [ISBoxer] is better than the AHK Script ?
    This is going to be personal preference...

    Do you prefer a GUI rather than scripting?
    Do you prefer documentation and setup videos specifically related to multiboxing?
    Do you prefer free software over one with a subscription-based model?

    I'm sure there are more comparisons to make, but only you can answer those questions.

    Finally, if you're absolutely concerned about being banned for multiboxing (which isn't against the rules), then, when it comes to software, you can actually create a working bot with AHK, whereas, with ISBoxer, you cannot (and that's by design). I'm not telling you to not use AHK, and if I didn't have ISBoxer, I'd probably be using AHK, but I'm letting you know, from the standpoint of which program has more potential to get you banned, it's not ISBoxer.
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    Multiboxing is allowed and ISBoxer is designed to do it.
    ISBoxer have good functionality that can't really be done in other programs like videofx which allows you to do things like picture in picture sort of with a portion of the screen, so you can easily display information from other clients on your main window.
    ISBoxer also have great mouse support and it has a very good build in FTL support to allow you to switch main very easily. (FTL is doable in other programs but takes effort, mouse support is not as good in other programs)

    I mostly used hotkeynet and it is my favorite since I like the syntax.

    Autohotkey can be used in ways that are against the rules (it has things like sleep, loops and reading pixels. If you use anything like that and get caught then I expect a ban).

    Neither of the programs should cause any bans, but ahk could be used in ways that breaks rules.

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    My thought when i first started was if Wow allows isboxer add on then its got to be ok. they are knowing allowing the use of the addon and the software. they have been quick to ban other addons that allowed harmful things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundel View Post
    My thought when i first started was if Wow allows isboxer add on then its got to be ok. they are knowing allowing the use of the addon and the software. they have been quick to ban other addons that allowed harmful things
    Blizzard has never, in the history of the game, banned anyone for using any add-on that operates legitimately within the Lua sandbox that they have created for WoW. If Blizzard doesn't like an add-on, they break the functionality it relies upon.

    As for which add-ons have been banned... I can only think of one (AVR), and that was back in WotLK.

    So, your fear of being banned for multiboxing (with ISBoxer) seems to be built on two insignificant factors, and I'm glad we cleared that up. [IMG]https://www.dual-boxing.com/images/icons/icon14.png[/IMG]

    EDIT: I actually thought I was replying to the OP. We have not cleared it up just yet!
    Last edited by MiRai : 06-14-2019 at 07:59 PM
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    OP, I think you have it backwards as you are more likely to get banned with Auto Hot Key (AHK) than ISBoxer. In the end a lot comes down to what you do and how you do it but if you automate steps in AHK (hence the name Auto) you likelyhood of getting banned is much, much higher...

    In the end I believe ISBoxer is safer, significantly easier, and has many features unavailable via AHK.

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    I did use AHK to box with for the first two or three years I boxed, coming to isboxer only with Cata. I still use ahk on my work and home machines for a lot of minor tasks, but for boxing I've found that dedicated software is much better.

    ISBoxer is 10x better as an experience.

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    Hi guys,

    I want to thank you a lot, because I use ISboxers and its really sooo much easier with this than with AHK ! and I undestood all basic functionnalities from it and I agree with you about its safer (from a ban pov) than AHK.

    So thanks a lot, now im enjoying with Retail wow and I can't wait to do it in Classic !

    See you in Azeroth !!

    Nuggets

    PS : And thanks Mirai for the nice tutorials !

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