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    Retail version Druid/Pal/Mage also a top 3 man pick? Thanks for thoughts and no offense meant by 'crossing the (wow) streams'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omegared View Post
    only warriors could tank.
    This is not true at all. Warriors were generally the most optimal tank but druids can tank just about every raid in classic, especially if you're speed running farm content and you have very geared DPS. Druids have much higher single target TPS than warriors.

    Also, paladins were excellent off tanks for fights with a lot of small adds or for dungeons. They have the highest AE threat. There are multiple encounters where anywhere from 2 to 8 tanks are needed so having off tanks available is very important in classic.

    Quote Originally Posted by tchallaaoc View Post
    Retail version Druid/Pal/Mage also a top 3 man pick?
    No idea I haven't played retail in years.

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    People should take the advice from these private server heroes with a grain of salt. Whole bunch of them popped up on this site in the last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    People should take the advice from these private server heroes with a grain of salt. Whole bunch of them popped up on this site in the last few months.
    Why? Recent experience on private servers seems more trustworthy than 15 year old memories to me. Pretty much all of the people I know that play on private servers also played retail vanilla.

    Judging by what we've seen so far on beta private servers actually seem harder than classic. Players that have come from private servers are the ones complaining that everything is too easy and Blizzard have been trying to convince them the beta values are correct. If anything, the evidence so far suggests private servers are overtuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Why? Recent experience on private servers seems more trustworthy than 15 year old memories to me. Pretty much all of the people I know that play on private servers also played retail vanilla.

    Judging by what we've seen so far on beta private servers actually seem harder than classic. Players that have come from private servers are the ones complaining that everything is too easy and Blizzard have been trying to convince them the beta values are correct. If anything, the evidence so far suggests private servers are overtuned.
    There have been several people, like Esfand, StaySafe, and TipsOut (whether you like any of them or not), who've been playing on private servers religiously, for years, only to repeatedly admit, on stream, that Classic is not the same as any private server they've played on, and the knowledge they've gained from private servers is not exactly carrying over to Classic.

    So, with all of the missing information that private servers don't have and are forced to make guesses at (Nano from Nostalrius has admitted this multiple times in several interviews), I wouldn't fully trust whatever anyone has "learned" from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    I wouldn't fully trust whatever anyone has "learned" from them.
    Some of it probably doesn't translate but that doesn't mean people haven't acquired a lot more knowledge about the game in the past 15 years. If nothing else, the tricks with particular items or raid strats people figured out on private servers let us know what to look for, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Some of it probably doesn't translate but that doesn't mean people haven't acquired a lot more knowledge about the game in the past 15 years. If nothing else, the tricks with particular items or raid strats people figured out on private servers let us know what to look for, right?
    Not exactly, just due to the number of things that are different. Dungeon elites hit much softer on Classic than on private servers, boss parry is much higher (almost 3x) on Classic compared to private servers, and regular mobs have differences as well. People can use the private server knowledge as a base, but it won't be much more reliable than anything else, just due to the huge amount of guess work used on private servers.
    These guys will have a better grasp on Classic than most random people, but that doesn't mean anything they know is right (as evidenced in multiple Blue posts).

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