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    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphe View Post
    What do you think about 2 shamans and 3 warriors ?
    And if you think it is viable. Should I go with 1 shaman and 4 warriors or 2 shamans and 3 warriors ?
    For PvE and doing dungeons it will be great. You'll cleave through mobs super fast with warriors and windfury totem. Less optimal for PvP (IMO) because shamans have no way to dispel slows/roots so you'll be kited fairly easily.

    Whether you want 2/3 or 1/4 is just a matter of preference. You'll do fine in PvE either way. The advantage to having 2 healers in PvP is being able to cross heal if one of your shamans gets CC'd. Your dungeon clear times will be slightly slower with 1 less DPS but you'll also be able to push faster. 2 Healers spamming downranked chain heal on 3 warriors should allow you to just go ham (within reason.)

    /cast [target=mouseover,help,exists] [help] [target=targettarget, help, exists] Chain Heal(Rank 1)
    Should work fairly well. 99% Of the time you'll be able to get away with just spamming r1 chain heal on the mobs target. If you need to heal another character, just mouseover with a repeater region on your unit frame.

    Having a mana tide totem every 2.5 minutes is also pretty nice.
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    Great point, swerving towards the war paly mix. Druid was mainly for alt spec play.
    charge to named and rez and other cheesy goodness. Plus br and wild.

    I had my 5 pally group on pro healing as tanks,
    They would all cast their small heals simultaneously on the one acting tank which = a loh.

    The aggro just shifted from tank to tank and it didnt matter, ut from what I gather they wont have enough healing power, even with multipl casting on one person in classic?

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    Paladins are excellent healers in both PvP and PvE in classic. It's not the healing that's the problem, it's the damage. A paladin will do around 1/3 of the damage of an equivalently geared warrior on a single target. On trash where you can cleave and whirlwind the gap is even worse.

    This is the fury/prot build I use for leveling https://classicdb.ch/?talent#LZVVzA0xoVoxfzox

    You sit in defensive stance and basically spam sunder, revenge and blooodthirst with a 2H weapon, or switch to 1H/Shield if you feel like you're taking too much damage. You'll do twice as much damage as an equal level mage.

    When you get high enough to start running Scarlet Monastery, pick up a Ravager on each of your warriors. It has a good proc chance -- once or twice per pull at least. Your cleave damage will beincredible all the way to 60. You can pull 2-3 packs of mobs at once and mow them down once you get a full set of plate armor. Paladins keep blessing of light/kings on your warriors and just spam flash of light for days. Don't go for healing power/spell power on paladins except on the weapon. Just stack as much intellect as you can find.

    Added benefit, you only have to buy water for your 2 paladins. Much more affordable.

    I've done this with a single warrior/paladin and it works really well. The warrior was out DPSing my casters consistently from 20-60 while tanking. 3-4 Warriors with IWT would be ridiculous.
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    also if you run 5 mana classes that aren't warlocks and you dont bring a mage its gonna be annoying af. Either you passiv reg after every dungeon trash pack which is a huge waste of time or you constantly gotta ask a mage for water. If you buy water from vendor and farm dungeons you will drain roughly as much gold as you get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    When you get high enough to start running Scarlet Monastery, pick up a Ravager on each of your warriors. It has a good proc chance -- once or twice per pull at least. Your cleave damage will beincredible all the way to 60. You can pull 2-3 packs of mobs at once and mow them down once you get a full set of plate armor. Paladins keep blessing of light/kings on your warriors and just spam flash of light for days. Don't go for healing power/spell power on paladins except on the weapon. Just stack as much intellect as you can find.

    from what I've read in comments ravager bladestorm cancels if you press an ability which could get annyoing for mboxing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4 View Post
    from what I've read in comments ravager bladestorm cancels if you press an ability which could get annyoing for mboxing.
    Could be. I was testing it a bit yesterday and it roots you in place during the proc, too. Annoying if it procs at the wrong time in PvP. Still fun for grinding trash quick though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Could be. I was testing it a bit yesterday and it roots you in place during the proc, too. Annoying if it procs at the wrong time in PvP. Still fun for grinding trash quick though.
    hm yeah that sucks for pve aswell when you have mobs that run away at low health....did you test if it cancels on key press? because that would put the nail in the coffin, else I think whirlwind axe is equally good since bloodthirst scales with attack power

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    Thanks for that advice. Been away struggling with python and had to stay away from the addiction. So with this setup I could drop a warrior, so another player coukd join and drive with a paladin. Is a druid an option for storming to a named, dying but saving the druid with shadowm ld to rez bakc, or is that too much if an ep loss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewsifur View Post
    ... Is a druid an option for storming to a named, dying but saving the druid with shadowm ld to rez bakc, or is that too much if an ep loss?
    Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. Maybe auto spell check or lack of spell check garbled your post.

    Can you please re-post with no abbreviations and/or more detail as to the approach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewsifur View Post
    ... Is a druid an option for storming to a named, dying but saving the druid with shadowm ld to rez bakc, or is that too much if an ep loss?
    Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. Maybe auto spell check or lack of spell check garbled your post.

    Can you please re-post with no abbreviations and/or more detail as to the approach?
    It sounds like they're asking if it's viable to run to an area with a bunch of aggro and use Shadowmeld to drop it, similar to what people do today in Mythics, to which the answer is "no," because, in Classic, Shadowmeld doesn't work in combat.
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    Thx for your answer. What about the lack of decurse and dispel in 5man dungeons ?
    I think i can run about everything without it but i'm not sure.

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