Generalisations in postings

[keyclone]

yea.. that's it.. 20x1 .. LOL

yes, obviously, i write software and i sell it. (what gave it away?)
for a whole $20 per copy (look out! grand theft!! quick... flog him!)

hell.. i just bought a soda for $1.50 in the company cafe.. and forget a single, one-time use cup of coffee @ starbucks...

on second thought.. you're right.

i should demand starbucks give me free refills.. and whatever different flavor i want.. and it should be free... after all, it's just hot water over beans with some milk & sugar

and the steak house.. i should demand they give me that $20 steak for free! and allow me to give copies to my friends.. for free!

hey, you're right.. this is great! everything would be free! i wouldn't have to pay a dime!

say.. my lawn needs mowing, the windows need cleaning, and the house could use a coat of paint.
when can i expect you over to do it all? free, of course. and of course, you'd supply the paint.. that i select..
and thanks for all those free supplies and labor

this is just awesome!

[Draku]

yea.. that's it.. 20x1 .. LOL

yes, obviously, i write software and i sell it. (what gave it away?)
for a whole $20 per copy (look out! grand theft!! quick... flog him!)

hell.. i just bought a soda for $1.50 in the company cafe.. and forget a single, one-time use cup of coffee @ starbucks...

on second thought.. you're right.

i should demand starbucks give me free refills.. and whatever different flavor i want.. and it should be free... after all, it's just hot water over beans with some milk & sugar

and the steak house.. i should demand they give me that $20 steak for free! and allow me to give copies to my friends.. for free!

hey, you're right.. this is great! everything would be free! i wouldn't have to pay a dime!

say.. my lawn needs mowing, the windows need cleaning, and the house could use a coat of paint.
when can i expect you over to do it all? free, of course. and of course, you'd supply the paint.. that i select..
and thanks for all those free supplies and labor

this is just awesome!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[keyclone]

[Khazrael]

Draku, while I can appreciate you appear to be trying to promote another application, as you feel that it is a good application with good support, I think you're doing it a disservice by going about it in this manner. No one on these forums are trying to sell keyclone (keyclone himself, he's only ever here supporting users, I've never seen him try and push his product on anyone). A lot of people who have used keyclone and are satisfied might suggest it to people as something to use through experience, but that's not trying to make a sale, that's a happy consumer trying to inform other consumers about a product they feel is worthwhile.

Somehow I doubt keyclone has the money to pay everyone who promotes his application as good software on these forums, with charging a measly $20.00 per copy. Which leaves only one reason for people to continue to talk about and suggest the application: good software and good support.

[Freddie]

personally... when it comes to 'free' software that has no ads and no discernible means of income, i'm ALWAYS suspicious.

HotkeyNet is free because it's in beta.

Actually only about half of its features are complete, and it's really in alpha, but people don't know what alpha means, so I say beta.

[Khazrael]

HotkeyNet is free because it's in beta.

Is that to imply you will charge a fee once it's production ready? If so, that kind of puts this whole discussion to rest.

[Freddie]

Is that to imply you will charge a fee once it's production ready?

That's one threshold. The other is, the program needs to have more than a certain minimum number of users.

[Simulacra]

it would be the opinion from a 'net citizen for over 20 years (bbs anyone? can you say procomm?)

Would you like some ZModem and WWIV BBS Software to go with your Procomm software? (sysop of a board for about 2 years back in the day! )

LOL - we're showing our age aren't we...yes I remember well getting a list of BBS phone numbers and trawling through them. I was the only person I knew with a PC and got comments like "WTF do you need a modem for" and "WTF is a modem anyway?" of course noone back then said WTF! mmmm 1100 baud LOL - it took ages to download porn 8)

[thinus]

No one on these forums are trying to sell keyclone (keyclone himself, he's only ever here supporting users, I've never seen him try and push his product on anyone).

Every single thread anyone makes where they ask what software to use for boxing they are told "buy keyclone, only $20, etc". How is that *not* trying to sell it?
Also check the AHK sticky, KeyClone himself promoted his product inside the AHK sticky, yes, thats right, inside the AHK sticky.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind as such. Push KeyClone all you want, its his software, he is hosting this site as well, right? Make a KeyClone banner and put it on top of the site. Advertising KeyClone is not the issue for me.

Generalization is. When people say things like "KeyClone does what all the other multi-boxing software does and KeyClone does it better" it gets under my skin. This is a blatantly untrue statement and false advertising. I know that the people who use KeyClone love it and are passionate about it but try and stay objective and don't make stupid statements.

[Gallo]

No one on these forums are trying to sell keyclone (keyclone himself, he's only ever here supporting users, I've never seen him try and push his product on anyone).

Every single thread anyone makes where they ask what software to use for boxing they are told "buy keyclone, only $20, etc". How is that *not* trying to sell it?
Also check the AHK sticky, KeyClone himself promoted his product inside the AHK sticky, yes, thats right, inside the AHK sticky.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind as such. Push KeyClone all you want, its his software, he is hosting this site as well, right? Make a KeyClone banner and put it on top of the site. Advertising KeyClone is not the issue for me.

Generalization is. When people say things like "KeyClone does what all the other multi-boxing software does and KeyClone does it better" it gets under my skin. This is a blatantly untrue statement and false advertising. I know that the people who use KeyClone love it and are passionate about it but try and stay objective and don't make stupid statements.

Keyclone does not host this site. Ellay does... and he doesn't even use keyclone. The whole fervor behind people pushing keyclone has been because nearly everybody that has used it, has loved it. It's a snowball effect. The more people that use it and love it, will preach to others to buy it. I think that Rob doesn't do a TON of self promotion... he usually chimes in when other people suggest keyclone. I think he generally does a good job and being unbiased... shoot, he's DEFINITELY suggested to other people to get AHK or Octopus(when it was free) as an alternative if you couldn't swing the $20.