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    The dreamrunner is part of the Stag family and gets an extra 5% hp bonus.
    the Clefthooves get 10% more armor and 20% more healing received, as well as an auto shell when falling below a certain HP. Also get heroism/bloodlust with clefhooves.
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    What I was trying to say that the healing from mend pet was hardly any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellay View Post
    The pets scale with Ilvl, I just did a +6 last night as Resto Shammy/4x Hunter and completed it in a +2, was decently close to +3.
    A neat trick I have as part of my spam is round robin Growl/taunt rotation, it's on a 8 second cooldown, so you could have it cycle every 1.6 seconds. That way each pet has time to actually heal in the process.
    I experience the opposite issue where some trash demolishes the pets but the bosses don't do much of anything. Which is mostly due to having 6-8 mobs aoeing down.
    My ilvl is 370-382ish right now on this team, so I still have quite a bit ways to work up.
    Having a Shaman spamming chain heal (which bounces to pets as well) really helps keep them topped off.
    So if you get frustrated with no heals, remember there is the option of adding a healer to the mix and being just as effective! Also wears mail so gear sharing is easy.

    To boost your ilvl up, do whichever warfront is up, the arathi one gives out ilvl 340 for completion every time and the first time also gives a 370, and the darkshore is 355 and gives a 400 item on the first time of the cycle. Then do emissaries if they give a rewards, and world quests should be boosting it up quite a bit. They will end up scaling all the way to 385 for the emissary reward.
    Thanks mate, this was really helpful will push more normal modes and worldquests tonight

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    You guys are just way better than me. My hunter team is 390 iLvl and I can barely one chest a +2 Kings Rest, think I had 18 deaths that run. I do OK with a healer in the mix, but cant figure out why I am so far behind others with just hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGabriel View Post
    You guys are just way better than me. My hunter team is 390 iLvl and I can barely one chest a +2 Kings Rest, think I had 18 deaths that run. I do OK with a healer in the mix, but cant figure out why I am so far behind others with just hunters.
    Kings rest is the most evil dungeon out of all of them - even when not boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreauk View Post
    Kings rest is the most evil dungeon out of all of them - even when not boxing.
    I did not know that. I was going by the easiest-hardest list from RedSorc, but he did make that list with a trinity group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGabriel View Post
    You guys are just way better than me. My hunter team is 390 iLvl and I can barely one chest a +2 Kings Rest, think I had 18 deaths that run. I do OK with a healer in the mix, but cant figure out why I am so far behind others with just hunters.



    I've been trying out a 5 hunter team too. FWIW, things that have made a big difference to me are:



    • GSE: when it gets hectic I get useless as it’s all too much on the screen to focus on. Having one spam key for all attacks was a game changer (even if it’s made things more boring too!). The macro I use may not give me 100% efficiency, but 70% efficiency 100% of the time is pretty good.
    • Slowing down: as a counter to the first point, when I rush to do extra DPS I often get myself in trouble. Most of the time the trouble is from mechanics, not straight mob damage, and training myself to stop the spam key and concentrate on re-grouping, running, changing team direction etc is better than getting the extra DPS (especially when pets carry on regardless)
    • Consumables: this may be a well known rookie mistake, but I used to not bother with consumables thinking it was a waste of time and effort for a few tiny percentage point of DPS improvements. Now I realize that when I have a flask, food buff, war-scrolls, and then pop battle potions and drums on a boss pull, they go down in half the time which often makes mechanics just never happen
    • Moving: I’m getting better at moving more frequently. I’ve found if I stay still I get caught out by something unnecessary. Some bosses (eg last boss in Shrine of the Storm) now seem trivial just by continually running around them.



    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGabriel View Post
    I did not know that. I was going by the easiest-hardest list from RedSorc, but he did make that list with a trinity group.



    My experience is that hard boss mechanics are a deal breaker (eg Atal’Dazar) so I normally don’t even attempt them. Of the ones that are feasible, I split them into two groups. One has minimal mechanics on the trash, with good space to move around when needed. The other is the opposite.


    I’ve found the first group (i.e. the easier ones) to be: Waycrest, Motherlode (apart from the last trash run of bomb swirlies), Freehold (apart from the goo at the beginning), Tol Dagor
    The second group (i.e. ones I can do, but normally with lots of wipes and taking twice as long as they should) are: King’s Rest (those goo things at the Embalmer boss annoy the hell out of me), Temple of Sethraliss (Getting from boss 3 to boss 4 can itself take 10 minutes of orb carrying frustration!), Underrot, Shrine of Storms


    Lastly, getting myself back on topic: I’ve been using the spirit porcupines and find them much more effective than the clefthooves. I have an action bar next to each party unit frame (using FX clickthrough) with my main defensive stuff on (health potion, spirit mend, exhilaration, turtle, survival of fittest, disengage) and each toon has the same abilities on number keys so I can click the screen if one toon is in trouble, or press a key for everyone. Without the spirit mend in there I’d be doomed as I often use it pretty much on cooldown.


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    Thank you guys for this thread.

    So what would be, in your (various ) opinion the best pet combination for a 5 hunter bm team aiming at mythics+?

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altsoba View Post
    Thank you guys for this thread.

    So what would be, in your (various ) opinion the best pet combination for a 5 hunter bm team aiming at mythics+?

    Cheers.
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    Everyone seems split on whether clefthoofs or spirit animals are best.

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    Yes but since we're talking about 4 or 5 hunters, is there any virtue in the mix? or not? if yes, in what proportion?
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