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    Really been struggling to decide in terms of best for farming.

    4 War/Sham
    1 Druid/3War/Sham
    1 Druid/3Mage/Sham or Priest

    I wasn't too fond of macro'ing aggro control with a warrior with tabbing targets. Hence why I am considering a druid for ease of holding aggro. Its a shame windfury doesn't affect the druid though. Although 4 dps warriors may not even require a tank to hold aggro. Just would have to worry about the healer.

    Also a shame that Leader of the Pack 3% crit wouldn't apply to the 3 mages' spell crit.

    The idea of driving from the healer and sending off relatively tanky dps warriors seemed nice. No cc and gear dependent so a bit concerned about progressing through dungeons until gear is obtained.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    If I were going to make a team exclusively for farming dungeons I'd probably go paladin, priest, 3 mages.
    Apatheist, you left me a tad confused since you mentioned that you would revise your original Druid/Shaman/2 Mage/1 Warlock as an ideal group in favor of melee thanks to IWT being available. However here you mention a caster group for farming. I am assuming you were considering other aspects such as PvP previously.

    Would a 1 Druid/3Mage/Healer setup farm faster/better than 4 War/Sham (or a druid tank in place of a warrior)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syclone View Post
    Apatheist, you left me a tad confused since you mentioned that you would revise your original Druid/Shaman/2 Mage/1 Warlock as an ideal group in favor of melee thanks to IWT being available. However here you mention a caster group for farming. I am assuming you were considering other aspects such as PvP previously.
    I had assumed previously that IWT wouldn't be available, since it wasn't in the original game, so casters would be the only viable option. With IWT available I much prefer melee. Casters are still fine though and provide a lot of utility and buffs. I will still roll a warlock group after DM releases because I think warlocks are also a strong all around pick for PvP/PvE.

    With the availability of 16 debuff slots and 1.12 itemized gear from the start it seems likely casters will be in a better place DPS-wise in the early phases.

    Mages AE clear larger groups of weaker enemies faster. BRD farming, for example. Warriors clear smaller groups (4-6) of stronger enemies faster such as the ogres in DM. Neither is really "better" than the other, they both have advantages. I think warriors are stronger in PvP but other people have played mages and had some success.

    Largely comes down to preference. You'll be able to farm fine with either group. The convenience of having a mage for portals and being able to summon back your looter might tip the balance for you.
    Last edited by Apatheist : 06-18-2019 at 06:23 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syclone View Post
    Really been struggling to decide in terms of best for farming.

    4 War/Sham
    1 Druid/3War/Sham
    1 Druid/3Mage/Sham or Priest

    ...
    If we are strictly talking what is the theoretical best 5 boxing dungeon clearing team for any/all circumstances I think the proto-typical design is:

    -1 Tank;
    -3 DPS;
    -1 Healer;

    With that in mind for strictly most efficient Dungeon clearing for those 3 roles I would recommend:

    -1 Tank: Paladin (or Druid if Horde though Warrior may also be an option);
    -3 DPS: Mages (though having at least 1 Warlock gives utility/buffs);
    -1 Healer: Priest Dwarf/Undead (though Paladins & Shamans are good options with pros/cons);

    The biggest thing I like about the above party composition is that it gives great Area of Effect (AoE) Threat, AoE Damage, and AoE healing options in addition to single target options and from a boxer perspective likely gives more simple & consistent timings, rotations, management, & positioning than other options.

    I think the Alliance option is overall best because the Paladin tank seems the best for maintaining threat on the largest number of targets as well as being able to reduce the other party member's threat if that is an issue and the Paladin can self clear poison letting the Priest clear magic & disease and the Mages clear Curses.

    I love druids and druids are probably my favorite overall class but, while they can be solid healers with a nice long cool-down combat rez, they lack a regular rez makes me hesitant to have them as the party's single healer. I guess they can be a good option if you have things fully on farm and rarely if ever wipe and/or if you can leverage another team member as a rezzer (like a Paladin).

    Druids Tanks also have strong AoE threat but on fewer targets and also can't reduce the aggro of their teammates and while they they can theoretically self-clear both Poisons & Curses I believe they have to shift to do so which can be dangerous...

    In the end there are lots of options and what is theoretically best may not necessarily be the best for your personal play-style, preferences, and/or skill level and/or the specific content you are targeting. If you want to consider various options you may want to review the following chart regarding who can clear which debuffs:

    https://cwl-forums.s3.amazonaws.com/...2fabb91c5c.png

    TLDR:
    From your options I think on the Horde side the most efficient overall 5-boxing option for clearing dungeons for the average person is:

    -Druid/3Mage/Priest (or Paladin instead of Druid if Alliance);

    Though personally I would at least substitute a Warlock for a Mage...

    The above being said I have concerns you maybe asking the wrong question or at least not be considering all needs... If you are interested in how I would recommend deciding on what your main 5 box party composition should be I would read the following:

    https://www.dual-boxing.com/entries/...or-Classic-WoW
    Last edited by nodoze : 06-18-2019 at 10:42 AM

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    Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

    That link does not work for me("Invalid Blog specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"), but I would love to read further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syclone View Post
    Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

    That link does not work for me("Invalid Blog specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"), but I would love to read further.
    Appreciate the thanks and sorry the link isn't working. That is my first Blog post on this site and it may be because I checked things I shouldn't have (or didn't uncheck things I should have). That or maybe I posted the link wrong or there is an issue due to the length of the URL.

    I changed a few check boxes on the Blog Post and took the link to the Tiny URL site for you:

    The following URL:
    https://www.dual-boxing.com/entries/...or-Classic-WoW
    has a length of 91 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 28 characters: https://tinyurl.com/yyebh7da
    [Open in new window]
    Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyebh7da
    [Open in new window]


    Please retry the link in my previous post and if that doesn't work try the Tiny URL links above.

    If none of those work then maybe someone like the Legendary MiRai can figure out what is wrong.
    Last edited by nodoze : 06-18-2019 at 06:40 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    Appreciate the thanks and sorry the link isn't working. That is my first Blog post on this site and it may be because I checked things I shouldn't have (or didn't uncheck things I should have). That or maybe I posted the link wrong or there is an issue due to the length of the URL.

    I changed a few check boxes on the Blog Post and took the link to the Tiny URL site for you:

    The following URL:
    https://www.dual-boxing.com/entries/...or-Classic-WoW
    has a length of 91 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 28 characters: https://tinyurl.com/yyebh7da
    [Open in new window]
    Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyebh7da
    [Open in new window]


    Please retry the link in my previous post and if that doesn't work try the Tiny URL links above.

    If none of those work then maybe someone like the Legendary MiRai can figure out what is wrong.
    Nope none of them. Have you tried visiting that link in incognito mode? You might be able to repro not being able to go to it that way.

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