Wrongful ban and a warning to those who box to farm

[seclusioned]

I find myself here in the same situation you were just in. I too was at the island with the venture co. mobs. 2nd day there actually. Have been 5 box farming for 8 months. And last month I decided to go to 8 to do 2x4 farming. I have countless hours and time into farming, as thats what I enjoy. I suffer from insomnia along with other things which makes it impossible to sleep at times. So I keep odd hours or long hours. I have farmed alot, I have seen ALOT of "reported for botting" or "reported scum". I typically do not sit at my computer while I farm. I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and typically sit 8-10 feet away from it and watch netflix, tv, or play click to play games on my laptop. I never noticed or seen any kind of GM check other then my characters died at some point, I seen this and got to the pc to start reviving them, and Dc'ed. Dcing happens once or twice a day, Idk why. Could just be my internet. But I did not try to log back in right away as I dont always. I grabbed some food and a shower and less then a hour later, tried to log in. suspended on all 8 under that bnet. My other 3 accounts are fine. But everything and I mean EVERYTHING I have worked hard for since 2006 is on that account.

Including 50-60m worth of items in my mailbox. Which will be gone when this suspension is up. I know mistakes happen especially when it comes to boxing. I have had 2 appeals denied, both responses feel very automated by blizzard, and just automatically closed. For 12-13 years I have been a very upstanding member of the community and have never had any marks on my account. I feel like my whole world is just over. I will lose everything I have worked for the past 2-3 years from farming all over a people reporting me for multiboxing. I had just purchased 6 months of game time. the longboi mount and so much more. I feel like there is nothing I can do with this. With blizzard not having any kind of customer support such as email, live chat, or phone, Im basically up the creek with out a paddle. I could use a break from wow. I have gotten to be a little more into it lately. But losing everything I have is just killing me.

Congrats on your over turned ban, But this is a major issue with the boxing community and blizzard needs to change their ways of this or just dont allow it all together. In one of my appeal responses I was told that no 3rd party software including add ons were allowed. I have since found that isboxer is NOT an approved addon but has just been said by GMs and blue posts that iwas "considered" ok. But in this case, and many more it is not.

12-13 years of wow years of my life actually in /played and I feel like my life is over. There is no way id compromise that or jeopardize it in any way. Anyways, just thought Id share

[Jabberie]

I typically do not sit at my computer while I farm.

This is botting.

[seclusioned]

This is botting.

No, it isnt. As I have the keyboard and am doing the actions my self.

There are many people who do this. I can even reference posts made on this very forum where people state they do this

Ill just edit here and post one of the many posts on here I have found where people do this

As ive said before and ive told blizzard spesifically, i only visually check my monitors around one time every 30 to 45 min. As im either laying in bed or sitting in the sofa either reading in university books or watching tv. And i dont reply to /whispers or communication from strangers. They said "ok " in reply to this. As long as i dont cheat, and it was strongly implied that they would be able to find out, if i did, they couldnt care less what im doing while just pressing my few "farm buttons" over and over. And ive done this around since oct 2017.

Admittedly this feels like a grey area, but ive never really noticed any very obvious botchecks. And never been contacted by a gm. People travelling past say they have rapported me or going to rapport me for botting almost on a daily basis.

[MiRai]

But this is a major issue with the boxing community and blizzard needs to change their ways of this or just dont allow it all together.

Calling it a "major issue" is quite a stretch, seeing as the vast majority of multiboxers, in WoW, have been multiboxing without any problems for years. It's only recently become a "major issue" for those who want to engage in mindless, AFK farming, and even then, there are plenty who've not had any problems continuing to do so.

I have since found that isboxer is NOT an approved addon but has just been said by GMs and blue posts that iwas "considered" ok. But in this case, and many more it is not.

First, there is no such thing as an "approved" add-on; Blizzard provides the API and add-on developers use it. If an add-on operates within Blizzard's Lua sandbox, then it's "approved."

Second, Blizzard has never, in the history of World of Warcraft, banned anyone for using an add-on that relied entirely on the API that they allow their playerbase to openly utilize.

There are many people who do this. I can even reference posts made on this very forum where people state they do this

Out of everyone who multiboxes in WoW, those who engage in stand-still or mostly-AFK farms are certainly the vast minority, and, while this might sound harsh, you will find little sympathy from most on this forum when it comes to defending action taken against those who participate in stand-still, AFK farms, as a multiboxer.

Also, the person you quoted has been called out on this forum for heavily misleading and misinformed statements before, so they're probably not the best person to be relying on as evidence of anything.

[Jabberie]

No, it isnt. As I have the keyboard and am doing the actions my self.

There are many people who do this. I can even reference posts made on this very forum where people state they do this

Ill just edit here and post one of the many posts on here I have found where people do this

You are not in control of the characters. If you are investigated while sitting on your couch, you're banned. No questions asked.

I told him he was stupid as well.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I think we can probably sum up this thread for future visitors or reporters as: "If you do bot-like or gold-farmer-like things, especially semi-afk stuff where you really aren't paying much attention, expect to have a bad day eventually. If you're *really* polite and complete on your appeals, you have a good chance of getting it overturned. Still, Blizzard is not the judicial system -- don't get bent out of shape when you realize Blizzard runs an invite-only club."

[WOWBOX40]

Sad to hear you got banned

I dont know which wireless keyboard you have. Maybe it has some software they dont approve? Is it possible to setup so that it spams key commands if you press and hold a button down? If thats the case, thats obviously a big nono.

Im actually doing the excact same thing as ive always been: pressing the boring standard keyboard with a usb extension cable, while im either in bed or sitting in the sofa. No "added keyboard software".

Its not AFK farming, but "away from monitor" farming.


Though i did some changes since i told you guys i was doing this way back.

1. i got 4 big mirrors setup so that im able to see the monitors from my bedroom.
2. i have a giant mirror in my livingroom, so im able to see the monitors when i sit or lay in the sofa.

This way im able to see if anything obvious happens, like one game getting logged out.

Though, most i have ever seen anything happen the last 4-5 months, is random games "disconnecting". At most 1 or 2 games per "long afternoon" farming session. But this lasted for around 3 weeks, a couple months back. Now it almost never happen. And i always visit my monitors every 25-30 min, just to see if anyone has gotten any "new" checks. But ive noticed nothing. And i havent seen the "wtf is happening, no keys work, have to relog game to fix it", since that happened often for a couple weeks or so back in april/may.

These days ive only seen "1 random disconnect" on average around like every 20 hours worth of playing. Its like Blizzard just does the odd check, "just in case".

I usually farm 3 hours like this "almost every day".


EDIT:
You could say im "properly legit" now, since i have the mirrors set up
I can "see" the monitors! :P


Btw...hm, as im no longer farming in fully public locations, and there are rarely any other players passing by, this also means less rapports towards me, i would imagine. Less rapports = less bot checks, possibly. Who knows.

Reason im checking the games atleast within every 30 min, is because thats the amont of time you have, if you afk ingame and you get automatically logged out. If you go to the toilet and the characters just stand there doing nothing, but you got botchecked while "afk irl" (but the characters are not afk ingame) at the bathroom etc, if you "reply" within 30 min = you should be good. Just a minor "safety net" plan of my own. Worked so far atleast.


It also appears that blizzard will never tell you the excact reason you got banned. This is so that you cant know for sure how they got you, if you did use illigal software etc.
For some reason, lately people got banned for using a vpn. Which ive never used, but i see major tech youtubers often promote it for internet privacy / security reasons.

[Svpernova09]

I believe this thread has run it's course. If you're looking for a TL;DR I'd suggest this bit from Ughmahedhurtz:

I think we can probably sum up this th read for future visitors or reporters as: "If you do bot-like or gold-farmer-like things, especially semi-afk stuff where you really aren't paying much attention, expect to have a bad day eventually. If you're *really* polite and complete on your appeals, you have a good chance of getting it overturned. Still, Blizzard is not the judicial system -- don't get bent out of shape when you realize Blizzard runs an invite-only club."