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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezreck View Post
    The only addon I can think of is gnome sequencer being that it actively swaps spells out in the sequence, and if that's the case then a massive number of players are in trouble :/

    Tons of people use GS and have for years with no problems.

    GS is not automation. Not any more automation than Blizzard has provided for years through castsequence macros. Both of which are hardly optimal and usually include some modifiers which strikes down the 1 button many actions belief.

    Personally I have used GS (vanilla) since Wrath. No bans. Not once ever.

    The rotation bot that people got banned for last year was optimally performing rotations based on its memory pull of cooldowns and procs. THAT is automation which Blizzard does not go for.

    The only thing I can think of is you were doing something very repetitive and the logs showed it. Is this the same story about the characters running into a wall to stay in combat or something?

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    read ur private message bud

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    That sucks hard, I would be devastated if I lost my accounts for any amount of time. I don't believe anyone on these forums cheat. I find it annoying too that Blizz seems to take such a hard stance with people who are innocent yet you go into any BG and you see 5 bots stacked up going from node to node.

    The other thing that's incredibly frustrating is that they say they don't have to provide proof. Good thing our legal system doesn't operate like that. Would be nice if Blizz actually told you what exactly is automated. "We reviewed thousands of pages of logs and it's that one, that addon right there, stop using that and you will be right." Rather than being left at a loss as to how exactly you have broken the rules.

    If I was a lawyer, or had heaps of money to burn, yea I'd challenge it (legally) just out of principal.

    I wish you the best of luck, and also wanted to thank you for getting me into boxing warlocks (pretty sure it was you).
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    I find it interesting that he stated:

    Multiboxing in and of itself is acceptable, but when that multiboxing crosses over into any level of intelligence or automation, then it is no longer acceptable. (like, implying that monk statue and stuff like that, that makes it "automated" in a way, is no longer acceptable. You have to actually be pressing the buttons for stuff to happen, anything else is a form of automation).


    In this case, it's clear that advanced software well beyond key-cloning was in use.
    (implying that you werent using "clever ingame mechanics, like monk statue": they actually found a ADVANCED SOFTWARE running on your pc). Whatever that mean. Shame they wont tell which one it is. IF i were them though, and it is indeed a "common" software that anyone could happen to install, once they bought a piece of hardware... that it should become public knowledge and a warning put out, not to use it all all, if you are multiboxing. One would think its in their own interest, to keep players subscribed and buying their game(s), that instead of a long ban, a minor warning to issued instead.

    It shouldnt be that hard for "warden" to activly search for "common" possible software that could be used for botting, though the player didnt, but it was installed for whatever reason. Then let that person know, they need to remove it asap, or get banned.

    Its also impossible to know when they found these pages of evidence. It could be last week, 5 month ago, 4 years ago..

    ohwell.... their game... their rules.... one would think they want the money.


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    Sorry to hear about this Nezreck. That sucks big time. On the plus side at least it is not a total ban and you can come back later. If this happened to me it would give me a great chance to catch up on all the games I keep buying during steam sales and never play once. Must have at least a hundred of them at this point.

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    so i have been going thru my logs etc cause i know i had something simular during dreanor was only 1 toon but here goes ,
    not saying Nezreck did something wrong but if you get banned and think your didnt do anything wrong at all they will resolve this (with alot of typos )




    i cant find the chatlogs and banmails anymore anymore but i did posted it on my twitter here
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnknownsTM View Post
    so i have been going thru my logs etc cause i know i had something simular during dreanor was only 1 toon but here goes ,
    not saying Nezreck did something wrong but if you get banned and think your didnt do anything wrong at all they will resolve this
    unfortunately i have already had 3 appeals through tickets shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    No, there's no such thing as ban evasion (in WoW) as far as Blizzard is concerned.
    Everything you said in the above quote is 100% false. Blizzard does not have access to anything outside of the game client.
    Thank you

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    For my part, i will try to avoid farming in "public" places to avoid being reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoW06 View Post
    For my part, i will try to avoid farming in "public" places to avoid being reported.
    It doesn't look like it, but I am still hoping this has nothing to do with farming. I just noticed a 5,000,000 gold mount, and I still haven't bought the 1,200,000 mount from legion yet.

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    Maybe they did some changes lately. Here is what i had laying around. Sadly without any direct source. Can try find it later, im not home right now. Notice the wording at "B" below.

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    A. WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH WORLD OF WARCRAFT. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE THAT, WHEN USED SIMULTANEOUSLY OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE GAME, WOULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTIONS 1, 2 OR 7. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, BLIZZARD MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER ANY BLIZZARD AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.

    B. WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING, BLIZZARD MAY OBTAIN CERTAIN IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR HARD DRIVES, CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT, IP ADDRESS(ES) AND OPERATING SYSTEM(S), FOR PURPOSES OF IMPROVING THE GAME AND/OR THE SERVICE, AND TO POLICE AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF ANY BLIZZARD AGREEMENT.

    C. Blizzard may, with or without notice to you, disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, chat logs, and other information about you and your activities: (a) in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process; or (b) if Blizzard believes that doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others.

    D. BLIZZARD MAY MONITOR, RECORD, REVIEW, MODIFY AND/OR DISCLOSE YOUR CHAT SESSIONS, WHETHER VOICE OR TEXT, WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU, AND YOU HEREBY CONSENT TO SUCH MONITORING, RECORDING, REVIEW, MODIFICATION AND/OR DISCLOSURE. Additionally, you acknowledge that Blizzard is under no obligation to monitor your electronic communications, and you engage in those communications at your own risk.

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