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  1. #141

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    Hi Everyone,

    I multi-boxed a 5-man team on The Rebirth consisting of a warrior, priest, hunter and two mages from 2015-2016. It was a lot of fun.

    I am going to dual-box when the classic servers are released. I'm inclined to play warrior/mage. Warrior because I love to tank. Mage because of the farming options (e.g. BRD) and portals.

    Double mage has crossed my mind, but only because I could dual-box them in end game dungeons and raids, whereas I don't expect to be able to dual-box a warrior/mage in end game dungeons and raids.

    Which route would you go?

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    If I were limited to two boxes I'd probably go either hunter or warrior plus a paladin or shaman.

    I'd recommend at least one class that can heal in any duo. Having a pocket paladin for heals, freedom, etc. turns warriors into absolute beasts for leveling and PvP and will make running dungeons while leveling easier since you'll just need to find a few DPS.

    Shaman and hunter probably works better if you're horde since slows/CC will hurt you less as a ranged DPS plus Orc racials are nice for BM and shaman both. You should still be able to manage most dungeons using your pet to tank. Grab yourself a gorilla for Thunderstomp to keep agro off your healer.

    A warlock plus a healer could also work well for either faction for similar reasons. Though you'll have an easier time in PvP as a horde warlock since alliance don't have WOTF.
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  3. #143

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    How easy/hard was 5box dungeon in vanilla?

    I played vanilla but did not start boxing till wotlk, with pally tank it was pretty easy. Come classic wow, I'm thinking 5box with warrior tank, how easy/hard would it be without good aoe aggro? I remember back in the day a lot of cc were used, or maybe we were all just new/bad at this game?

    I've read that feral druid maybe a better tank for 5man, though I've never played a druid in vanilla, in fact, I don't think I've even run any dungeon with druid tank in vanilla. Just for 5 man dungeon, would druid tank be better than warrior?

    thanks for all your inputs

  4. #144

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    Try looking through some of the older movie threads, there's still quite a few video links that still work and show it being done, and you don't necessarily need a dedicated tank class for 5 boxing them. A lot of the more popular comps were built around casters, or consisting entirely of them(With the exception of maybe 1 melee class).

    If anything you'd be better off not using one in most cases(though it depends on what we'll have available to us when they release Classic). I can't imagine we'll have IWT + CTM again, so we'll probably be back to using a main melee toon we drive from while the others are on follow to drop away from the mob(s) etc.

  5. #145

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    I'm going horde so i'm also looking for input between druid and war tank.

    I did some of my homework. I can say that those 2 are viable for 5 men. You get a stat buff with a druid tank.

    Druid tank can cast regrowth and rejuv before pulling and have thorn (plus fire shield if you have a warlock). That give a bit of aoe threat. If you get more than 3 mob it help to keep agro over your healer at start. you got swipe that damage 3 target, this is easier to make threat but can break cc. If i'm not wrong druid do less aoe threat than warrior but more single target threat. With a warrior you will have to switch target to make aoe threat with revenge and sunder armor. You also have battle shoot when you have pull that make a good aoe threat.

    Druid take more damage than warrior but have more hp. Because druid take more crit and crush than warrior. They have more armor but that dont compensate.

    Druiid add a rez battle and can off heal if needed. That can be usefull for pvp or some fight for pve.

    Overall I think warrior is a bit more difficult to manage than a druid. A warrior is better if you want survability and a druid is better if you want something easier but full of utilities.

  6. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by killkat View Post
    How easy/hard was 5box dungeon in vanilla?
    Classic dungeons aren't as mechanically difficult as modern WoW but you also have less tools to handle a lot of situations so it can be a challenge. Tanking and threat is more difficult, you have to be conservative with mana and it's much more important to CC and think about how and where you pull so you won't agro additional packs. If you go into classic dungeons with the mentality that you can pull whole rooms you'll spend a lot of time running back to your corpses.

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphe View Post
    I'm going horde so i'm also looking for input between druid and war tank.
    Generally speaking, druids are better dungeon tanks while warriors are better raid tanks. Swipe and thorns are solid AE threat tools. Innervate for your healer is nice between pulls. Warriors have better cooldowns and mitigate more damage which makes them superior raid tanks.


    I'm actually keen to try raid boxing. I think with a little planning it should be possible for a boxing guild to have quite a lot of success in raids. More than in any expansion because of the relative simplicity of mechanics. I know for sure MC, ZG and Ony can be done.

    Could be worth a little discussion before launch as it might impact which server/faction and group composition people choose. If we can get a bunch of boxers in the same place, create a guild early we could have a decent shot at clearing some content. While I've been hyping paladins a lot, horde might be the superior choice if the focus is boxing raids. There's really no alliance equivalent to chain heal.

    I'd love to have a serious attempt MC/BWL with some other boxers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    I'm actually keen to try raid boxing. I think with a little planning it should be possible for a boxing guild to have quite a lot of success in raids. More than in any expansion because of the relative simplicity of mechanics. I know for sure MC, ZG and Ony can be done.

    Could be worth a little discussion before launch as it might impact which server/faction and group composition people choose. If we can get a bunch of boxers in the same place, create a guild early we could have a decent shot at clearing some content. While I've been hyping paladins a lot, horde might be the superior choice if the focus is boxing raids. There's really no alliance equivalent to chain heal.

    I'd love to have a serious attempt MC/BWL with some other boxers.
    I am onboard with this idea. Running MC/BWL/ONY/ZG with some fellow boxers.
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  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    Classic dungeons aren't as mechanically difficult as modern WoW but you also have less tools to handle a lot of situations so it can be a challenge. Tanking and threat is more difficult, you have to be conservative with mana and it's much more important to CC and think about how and where you pull so you won't agro additional packs. If you go into classic dungeons with the mentality that you can pull whole rooms you'll spend a lot of time running back to your corpses



    Generally speaking, druids are better dungeon tanks while warriors are better raid tanks. Swipe and thorns are solid AE threat tools. Innervate for your healer is nice between pulls. Warriors have better cooldowns and mitigate more damage which makes them superior raid tanks.


    I'm actually keen to try raid boxing. I think with a little planning it should be possible for a boxing guild to have quite a lot of success in raids. More than in any expansion because of the relative simplicity of mechanics. I know for sure MC, ZG and Ony can be done.

    Could be worth a little discussion before launch as it might impact which server/faction and group composition people choose. If we can get a bunch of boxers in the same place, create a guild early we could have a decent shot at clearing some content. While I've been hyping paladins a lot, horde might be the superior choice if the focus is boxing raids. There's really no alliance equivalent to chain heal.

    I'd love to have a serious attempt MC/BWL with some other boxers.
    I would be up for that as well! Sounds fun!
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    I'm somewhat torn on what to do...

    On one hand, I'd like to roll a single character on a PvP realm, but, on the other hand, I would want to roll my multiboxed teams on a PvE realm since, when multiboxing, you're a giant target and will continuously be harassed on a PvP realm, slowing your progress at every turn.

    My issue is that I hate to split my time between multiple realms because that means splitting progression, friends, no shared progression, etc., and so I don't know what I'm actually going to do. I could roll solo on a PvE realm where I'll be multiboxing, but I know I'm going to miss out on the great aspect of Vanilla/Classic PvP from that solo standpoint.

    Decisions, decisions...
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    To avoid harassment on a pvp realm you can do your leveling inside instances. I plan to do that. I'm almost sure this is also a very effective way to level because you dont have competition. So you could get more xp/hr than you could get outside on a fresh realm.

    Horde side you can get about level 40+ before getting in any pvp zone. you can do RFC, WC, SFK, RFK then SM.

    If you do an alliance team this will be a little bit difficult. But once you are inside your dungeon you are safe.

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