Banned for multiboxing-- finally overturned.

[WOWBOX40]

Ritley, i always assumed that this was software that played your character(s) while you were totally "afk", like those herb and mining bots.
I think it was back in january, i bought a ps4 bluetooth gamepad and a small "numpad keys only" keyboard, hoping i could use either while i was sitting in the living room pressing buttons. So i didnt have to carry the normal sized keyboard with me. I played with both for a couple hours, trying to fix them / change settings, but didnt figure it out. Sadly they both spammed keys like mad as soon as i pressed and holded down any button. So i ofcourse uninstalled them pronto. Would be a shame if i was suddenly banned "now" because of those few short hours way back. Im pretty sure they would be willing to overlook that though, in my eventual "complain". Time will tell i guess.

[ebony]

They often do bot banning all at once in a massive wave. Just because he's safe right now doesn't mean they don't know or won't be banning him.

normally they do this when they closing down gold selling, Maybe one your "friends" sold the gold to a 3rd party. Never trust in game friends with gold/items i got bitten a few times now!

[WOWBOX40]

Had a re-read on the Eula, was bored:

1. Consent to Monitor. WHILE RUNNING, THE PLATFORM (INCLUDING A GAME) MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE'S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH A GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1.C. ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE PLATFORM DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (a) THE PLATFORM MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. Additionally, certain Games include a tool that will allow your computer system to forward information to Blizzard in the event that the Game crashes, including system and driver data, and by agreeing hereto you consent to Blizzard receiving and/or using this data.

The term “Platform,” as used in this Agreement, means and refers collectively, and at times individually, to (1) the Blizzard App Client software (formerly known as the “Battle.Net” Client), (2) the gaming services offered and administered by Blizzard in connection with the Blizzard App Client and the Games, (3) each of the Games (including any authorized mobile apps relating to the Games), (4) Blizzard’s Game-related websites and their associated forums, and (5) all features and components of each of them, whether installed or used on a computer or mobile device.



Eh... so if i use a laptop in bed, which has never had any games installed on it whatsoever.. its brand new, but i then go to the Blizzard official forums to read, they may be able to actually monitor my laptop? This laptop share a internet connection / router with the pcs i use to play wow on. Can they scan my laptop while i play wow on my main pcs? Even my cellphone? lol

What about other harddrives on my main pc?
Granted, i dont have any programs running from the other harddrives at all, its purely for storage, backups etc.





ok....MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE'S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH A GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS.

even "out of process"...so they can monitor 24/7 even if you dont play any blizzard game. Well, i do play some "other games" every now and then. Some of them are very hard and i dont have the time to finish them and also i wouldnt have the patience. So i guess any "trainers" i have used to finish those games, could be picked up by Blizzard haha. I assume they will know the difference though, software used for other games vs their games...hopefully.

Im starting to think i need create a big word file, where i document everything i have done so far and the stuff im doing next...just so i dont have to sit here for days to write a eventual complaint, should that day come (once a year i guess, that seem to be the time between each "bot ban wave").

[JohnGabriel]

If you never installed warden on your laptop they cant monitor your computer at all, no matter the forum you visit. How I read it, you'll need the platform running, ie the game open.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Had a re-read on the Eula, was bored:

1. Consent to Monitor. WHILE RUNNING, THE PLATFORM (INCLUDING A GAME) MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE'S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH A GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1.C. ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE PLATFORM DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (a) THE PLATFORM MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. Additionally, certain Games include a tool that will allow your computer system to forward information to Blizzard in the event that the Game crashes, including system and driver data, and by agreeing hereto you consent to Blizzard receiving and/or using this data.

The term “Platform,” as used in this Agreement, means and refers collectively, and at times individually, to (1) the Blizzard App Client software (formerly known as the “Battle.Net” Client), (2) the gaming services offered and administered by Blizzard in connection with the Blizzard App Client and the Games, (3) each of the Games (including any authorized mobile apps relating to the Games), (4) Blizzard’s Game-related websites and their associated forums, and (5) all features and components of each of them, whether installed or used on a computer or mobile device.



Eh... so if i use a laptop in bed, which has never had any games installed on it whatsoever.. its brand new, but i then go to the Blizzard official forums to read, they may be able to actually monitor my laptop? This laptop share a internet connection / router with the pcs i use to play wow on. Can they scan my laptop while i play wow on my main pcs? Even my cellphone? lol

What about other harddrives on my main pc?
Granted, i dont have any programs running from the other harddrives at all, its purely for storage, backups etc.





ok....MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE'S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH A GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS.

even "out of process"...so they can monitor 24/7 even if you dont play any blizzard game. Well, i do play some "other games" every now and then. Some of them are very hard and i dont have the time to finish them and also i wouldnt have the patience. So i guess any "trainers" i have used to finish those games, could be picked up by Blizzard haha. I assume they will know the difference though, software used for other games vs their games...hopefully.

Im starting to think i need create a big word file, where i document everything i have done so far and the stuff im doing next...just so i dont have to sit here for days to write a eventual complaint, should that day come (once a year i guess, that seem to be the time between each "bot ban wave").

This is pretty much black helicopter conspiracy theory. I have no idea what else can be said about it as it's been beaten to death across pretty much every forum with a WoW section. I'd suggest creating another thread to discuss Blizzard mind control policies as this thread is beginning to develop more rabbit holes than I can keep track of.

[Kayley]

Probably joking, but it brings up another question. What happened to OP's friends that received the gold? Were they banned as well?

Nothing at all. I do mean it when I say I've been guilded with the same group/family/friends for years-- no gold was taken away; their accounts are fine.

I'm going through the same thing right now. I've submitted 6 tickets since yesterday asking for an explanation other than other players reported me for cheating. So called 'reviews' have been done to come to the same conclusion. No further requests on this topic will not be reviewed. I have literally had 0 say in the matter other than the tickets I submitted. Never got a message in game from a GM. Just kicked and told I was suspended for 6 months.

What were the magic words that got you to get through and actually talk to someone?

And congrats on the justice.

As I mentioned you need to find out EXACTLY what they are banning you for -because you only get a few ticket responses before they auto-ignore.
The GM's managing the case won't tell you unless you ask.

This needs to be the standard.

...some of this shit doesn't pass the smell test.

I used to "give gold to my friends" too along time ago. They were the best of friends, they gave me money in return. Such good friends.

lol, dork. These guys have been my online buddies since forever, so, no selling.

normally they do this when they closing down gold selling, Maybe one your "friends" sold the gold to a 3rd party. Never trust in game friends with gold/items i got bitten a few times now!

Fair point. However the gold was mostly by friends so that they could buy the 2m spider mount.

I know i'm 2 months late to my own thread.
They did a banwave on the 10th of july and I was left alone. I really have no idea why they pinged me the first time.