Unethical Gameplay?

[WOWBOX40]

Well they cant prove where i am or what i am doing while im pressing the buttons.

The only thing at the moment that seems to be able to ban me, is if they message me on one of my other accounts, that are on a very very small portion of one of my monitors.

If they did a spesific bot check on that one, i would most likely fail it. Even if i sat in front of my computer.

Im probably not alone.

What will they do? Will they ban only that spesific account? That whole battlenet with 8 accounts? All my battlenet accounts?

I think thats out of order, since im actually here. Im playing. Though im only able to see the fullscreen of my main character account clear as day. I dont think this is wrong.

The "gm wants to talk to you" prompt is veeery small. They should change that to become maybe a fullscreen warning, make the whole screen turn all red and flash? On all my active accounts? Bypass any sound settings, so a audible sound is heard? Why not imo. Also: the jamba /whisper forwarder doesnt work 100% of the time. If a Gm /whispers me, maybe it could be sent by default to all my active battlenets/accounts?

Im pretty sure they have notes on me. Ive been playing for as long as you MiRai.

Im being told by players almost every single day that they will report me. Imagine at blizzard hq (years back): "omg this is the 2000th report we have gotten...the workload it creates on this guy alone is insane. Lets just create a script so we never have to see these ever again"

Btw i disabled /s and /y and /emote ages ago. Im not interested in talking to or reading crap from rude and/or misinformed strangers. If they do want to contact me, they can /w me. Which i promptly report, if deemed against the chat tos. I only talk to friends via battlenet, /w, /p or /raid

Btw, funny that you mentioned the software that makes it possible to play other games at the same time. Oddly enough ive never been that bored.

Isboxer has a similar feature, kinda, which i use whenever i want to play solo or do raids etc with friends. I have a solo profile in isboxer, which i remapped almost all keys from my main to only a few farm macros on the slaves.

So im out there healing Argus etc, while the slaves stand still and kill stuff at the same time. If a gm ever "bot tested" one of them while i was in argus i prob wouldnt notice.

In addition to stand still farming, there are actually lots of other things one could do. Imagine you have 8 toons farming mobs (even 8 different spots in the world), 4 is crafting... 4 is disenchanting... on 3 other realms you are running TSM sniper. The list goes on.. now imagine playing 24+++ accounts. The sky is the limit


IMO, if they want us to pay attention at all times as a multiboxer, as long as i atleast is able to pay attention to 1 account, that should count as "im paying attention to all my accounts".

Btw: why do some think this a problem?
Wouldnt it be easier and safer for both Blizzard and us: it prevents false bot checks. If they can contact my main account if they need to do a bot check: im there --> no bot, case closed.

For reference: ive never been contacted by a gm for a "bot check, not that i know of anyway. And as i said above, people tell me almost daily that they will report me for hacking and/or botting.

Btw MiRai, i hope you will forward both the video and link to this forum to Blizzard.

It would be nice to know their official stance on these subjects.

Your excellent video also touched on other parts aswell, which i would love to know Blizzards reaction on.


I realized that they already have a implemented "warning" screen... the one where the whole screen turns blue, when you need to confirm your ingame store purchase. Maybe they could use that one, and make it appear on all the currently active accounts and on all current battlenet accounts, when they wish to perform a "bot check". That certainly would be easy to spot.

[MiRai]

Breaking up my replies into two posts because there's a lot.

Well they cant prove where i am or what i am doing while im pressing the buttons.

The only thing at the moment that seems to be able to ban me, is if they message me on one of my other accounts, that are on a very very small portion of one of my monitors.

If they did a spesific bot check on that one, i would most likely fail it. Even if i sat in front of my computer.

Im probably not alone.

What will they do? Will they ban only that spesific account? That whole battlenet with 8 accounts? All my battlenet accounts?

I think thats out of order, since im actually here. Im playing. Though im only able to see the fullscreen of my main character account clear as day. I dont think this is wrong.

It's highly unlikely that a missed whisper is going to result in a ban. There are plenty of other checks they can run on a character to test if they're automating gameplay.

Im pretty sure they have notes on me. Ive been playing for as long as you MiRai.

I often wonder whether or not "senior" multiboxers—those who have had their accounts for a long time—are given a break when reported. I mean, rather than verify anything with a whisper, a GM would simply do a quick visual check, and unless I'm doing something truly questionable, they just move on to the next ticket. /shrug

Im being told by players almost every single day that they will report me. Imagine at blizzard hq (years back): "omg this is the 2000th report we have gotten...the workload it creates on this guy alone is insane. Lets just create a script so we never have to see these ever again"

You can watch Pinkskull talk to a GM who tells him that he's been reported "quite a bit" in the week prior, and that he has been reported over 800 times across the lifetime of the account he's playing on, but obviously no action had been taken since he was never found to be doing anything wrong.

IMO, if they want us to pay attention at all times as a multiboxer, as long as i atleast is able to pay attention to 1 account, that should count as "im paying attention to all my accounts".

I think Blizzard acknowledges that when it comes to multiboxers, but that's not really what I was originally discussing in the video.

Btw MiRai, i hope you will forward both the video and link to this forum to Blizzard.

It would be nice to know their official stance on these subjects.

Your excellent video also touched on other parts aswell, which i would love to know Blizzards reaction on.

Once some people heard the word "multiboxer," they'd get bent out of shape and lose focus of the actual discussion.

I realized that they already have a implemented "warning" screen... the one where the whole screen turns blue, when you need to confirm your ingame store purchase. Maybe they could use that one, and make it appear on all the currently active accounts and on all current battlenet accounts, when they wish to perform a "bot check". That certainly would be easy to spot.

First of all, family members can play from the same BNet account, at the same time, so it doesn't make much sense to alert everyone playing on the account.

Second, that would be incredibly intrusive if you were in the middle of something when a GM wanted to contact you—it's supposed to be a whisper, not a megaphone.