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    Yet another completely unintelligible clause. Blizzard tended to be better at not having such things previously.

    Reading it as written implies that even an in game macro would need to be expressly authorised. Yes, they could blanket rule this one.

    Which would take you on to Addons. They all need to be expressly authorised too? They could blanket rule this too as you are using a supplied interface to interact with the game, but they should all be considered code, so all of a sudden they are brought into question without the blanket rule.

    What about running an Excel spreadsheet of whatever data, as it can be "used in conjunction" and "facilitates other functionality" - which might be some calculated benefit of stat stacking.

    Where's the list of of all the Expressly Authorised things, and why does no game company ever provide one that does not consist of a needle in a billion forum posts?
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    I have tweeted Blizzard cs asking can I use isboxer. I imagine the response will be "Use at your own risk"

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    well this is aimed at All Batte.net games, and for a random shot in the dark am going to guess that the coinages are due to The new game not owned by blizzard and they wonnted this in for Destiny 2. (that is coming out very soon)

    Who knows.

    But ya like bob said all addons would = in a ban if they use the new tos on wow, and or addon dev would have to get blizzard to auth the code.... that i don't think will happen.


    or we get new ToS or wow in 7.3........ saying boxing is isboxer and boxing is now cheating with any software.
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    That entire section of the EULA present as early as February 28th, 2015 (according to a Google cache result), and has not been updated since then.

    With that said, it's highly unlikely that Blizzard would disallow software-assisted multiboxing without giving their playerbase several months of notice. For EVE, CCP announced their one change to multiplexing with plenty of time for everyone to adapt, and there's no reason that Blizzard wouldn't extend the exact same courtesy to their playerbase.

    Blizzard is not oblivious to the fact that the vast majority of players who multibox their game(s) use software to do it—they're not going to sneak a new clause into their Terms of Service, and then just start banning people left and right come patch day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    That entire section of the EULA present as early as February 28th, 2015 (according to a Google cache result), and has not been updated since then.

    With that said, it's highly unlikely that Blizzard would disallow software-assisted multiboxing without giving their playerbase several months of notice. For EVE, CCP announced their one change to multiplexing with plenty of time for everyone to adapt, and there's no reason that Blizzard wouldn't extend the exact same courtesy to their playerbase.

    Blizzard is not oblivious to the fact that the vast majority of players who multibox their game(s) use software to do it—they're not going to sneak a new clause into their Terms of Service, and then just start banning people left and right come patch day.

    I did have a feeling it did not change for a long time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebony View Post
    I did have a feeling it did not change for a long time!
    Let's go all the way back to 2013.

    It's always interesting when the EULA updates because then people actually bother to read it at that time, and this is a typical result/reaction that you find during those updates. Even on reddit someone started a thread about how data mining is now against the EULA, when that same entry has also been in the EULA for a very long time.
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    Well that's ok then. TBH, I don't read EULA's unless specifically looking for something.

    They're mostly a load of unenforceable crap, and essentially boil down to, we have rights of our stuff, you have none, and if you don't like it, we can give you a refund of the purchase price (subscriptions not included).

    And yes, I'm the kind of person who clicks on the button and signs up my first spawn. I just wish the bastards would come and pick it up.

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    I just flew over it and saw that the max Number of Bnet Accounts one Person is allowed to own is 3. i am afraid this could cause some Problems for the Massmultiboxers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flumpumpel View Post
    I just flew over it and saw that the max Number of Bnet Accounts one Person is allowed to own is 3. i am afraid this could cause some Problems for the Massmultiboxers.
    What you're referring to was removed from the North American EULA awhile ago and updated to specify that the limit is for how many accounts can have an active Blizzard Balance on them.

    Blizzard Balance is not a bank account. And, while you can register and play on multiple Accounts, you are not allowed to have more than three (3) Accounts with Blizzard Balance.


    For some reason, the EU EULA still hasn't been updated in this regard, but it's obvious that you're able to own and operate more than three BNet accounts, in game, at any given time (together or separate), otherwise there would be multiboxers from the EU who would be actioned for it.
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