Enhancement Shaman

[Ellay]

It seems like the healing rain is way more effective than the consecrate with the insta heals also loaded in. Must be missing something..
The bubbles and other defensive cooldowns must bring advantage to the tank specs.

[JohnGabriel]

It seems like the healing rain is way more effective than the consecrate with the insta heals also loaded in. Must be missing something..
The bubbles and other defensive cooldowns must bring advantage to the tank specs.

The only downside to tanks right now is they nerfed our damage quite a bit. Going to be tough to do any really high end mythic+ at only half the DPS.


They should not have nerfed tanks to begin with. The DPS whined enough but DPS scales well with gear and they eventually catch up, but now tanks are behind.


If you can make it work with Shamans you'll have an easier time in mythics once your iLevel gets up into the 860 range.

[Lyonheart]

It seems like the healing rain is way more effective than the consecrate with the insta heals also loaded in. Must be missing something..
The bubbles and other defensive cooldowns must bring advantage to the tank specs.

I think its mostly the ability to take more damage AND do very good self healing ( prot pal and blood dk anyway ) also the dps is respectable. Im doing 180K single target on my prots..thats half what good dps do but the survivability makes up for it.

[Ellay]

Is the Nerf JohnGabriel is mentioning live, or is that on the PTR and it's coming? because I would be happy with 5x doing 180k dps single target, if regular dps does 360k.
What that ends up being is 5x180=900 vs 180+360x3=1260, overall only losing 25% damage and gaining so much survive.
If the discrepancy though is coming where the dps will end up being even worse, then may not be worth it.

[JohnGabriel]

Is the Nerf JohnGabriel is mentioning live, or is that on the PTR and it's coming? because I would be happy with 5x doing 180k dps single target, if regular dps does 360k.
What that ends up being is 5x180=900 vs 180+360x3=1260, overall only losing 25% damage and gaining so much survive.
If the discrepancy though is coming where the dps will end up being even worse, then may not be worth it.

The nerf is live and was shortly after the expansion released. We've been dealing with it for a couple weeks now.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

My paladin tanks are putting out nowhere near 180k DPS at ~840ish iLevel. It's closer to ~100k sustained unless there's a ton of trash being hit by all the AoE. I don't know about the guys doing mythics in 865+ gear, though.

[davidmage]

My paladin tanks are putting out nowhere near 180k DPS at ~840ish iLevel. It's closer to ~100k sustained unless there's a ton of trash being hit by all the AoE. I don't know about the guys doing mythics in 865+ gear, though.

Well I'm not 865+ but closing in. I'm probably doing closer to 100k rather than 180k. But I think much have to do with if you use Old war pots or not. Those will really increase your dps, and lower the duration of a boss fight, resulting in a bigger part of a boss fight being done during cools, and then a higher dps. Add drums to that and you have an insane burst.

[Lyonheart]

My paladin tanks are putting out nowhere near 180k DPS at ~840ish iLevel. It's closer to ~100k sustained unless there's a ton of trash being hit by all the AoE. I don't know about the guys doing mythics in 865+ gear, though.

My guys are at 860ish il..all three traits. ill post my talents and stats when i get back home tonight.

I only use food and drums so far. I do have the cheaper enchants on all my enchantable gear as well.

[davidmage]

My guys are at 860ish il..all three traits. ill post my talents and stats when i get back home tonight.

I only use food and drums so far. I do have the cheaper enchants on all my enchantable gear as well.

Please do that Just looked at my latest video, and the overall dps on bosses was like 100-140k. I definitely have some improvements to do then for my dps.

Also do you use Gnome sequencer? I used it for a while but found that it did the same dps as my manual mashing, but with only less control of my abilitys. If you have a script that works good with prot palas it would be awesome if you could share it

[Lyonheart]

Please do that Just looked at my latest video, and the overall dps on bosses was like 100-140k. I definitely have some improvements to do then for my dps.

Also do you use Gnome sequencer? I used it for a while but found that it did the same dps as my manual mashing, but with only less control of my abilitys. If you have a script that works good with prot palas it would be awesome if you could share it

The 180k dps was on Xavious boss with drums.. never used any pots. I was watching my DPS lastnight on the WQ WB and i was in the 120-140 range as well with no drums being used... got tossed around a lot though. Whats the best boss to test single target dps on.. most bosses have you running around..fear you.. toss you around ect.. I need to test a PW type boss.. cant think of one though.