Originally Posted by zenga
In other words you're one of those who run headlong into everything and observe your surroundings when on a rez timer. I guess that's alright you aren't alone.
In other words you're one of those who run headlong into everything and observe your surroundings when on a rez timer. I guess that's alright you aren't alone.
False dichotomy FTW! /groanIn other words you're one of those who run headlong into everything and observe your surroundings when on a rez timer. I guess that's alright you aren't alone.
You aren't strengthening your argument by restating the known exceptions to the rule as inerrant proof that the rule doesn't exist and then snarking at people when they point out the inconsistencies. Nobody is disagreeing with you that some people definitely use multiboxing as a griefing mechanic, but those people would grief regardless of whether they were multiboxing or not. They wouldn't have _as much_ success at it but it would still happen, and putting your fingers in your ears and ignoring the experience of pretty much everyone else on here while asserting the primacy of your arbitrary "this level of multiboxing is OK but THAT shit is just EEEEEvil" gospel looks markedly similar to the anti-multiboxer trolling in other forums.
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I'm not sure why you bothered quoting me out of context. I don't have the interest nor the time to decipher that. Though my stance has been the same since I posted in this thread.
I do think people who incessantly complain are the type who run into situations and then figure out what they did wrong in front of a rez timer. Those people just need to learn how to play. I do not think the people complaining about machine lag or having 40 toons dropped on their head are the same people. Nor are they facing the same experience.
There are degrees involved with the issue. Writing them all off as false is unnecessary and does nothing to solve the problem.
Prepared posted a video showing a multiboxer called Malseph casting army of the dead, fireworks also banners. the server crashed right after. why do pepole cast stuff that is not needed in the battle?
https://youtu.be/F_-u0rv9ves?t=1434
There are videos from both sides showing massive lag and server disconnections with a "World server is down" message afterwards. This has been going on for weeks upon weeks.
I assure you, neither side is as innocent as they claim to be.
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I just read over Fred's posts on Reddit and boy does that guy have a hateboner for Prepared.
The most amusing post so far is him attempting to call the guy out for racism. Having the misfortune of having a couple of toons on ED, I've got to say that racism is not something unique to the mass multiboxer. There's a lot of toxic dudebros there, Fred's just looking for a witch hunt.
I also find it funny that Fred is making all these special demands for "RP-PVP" servers but no demands for RP servers. Truth is that ED is the only "active" RP-PVP server. From what I can tell, ED is mostly a PVP server with a little bit of RP or precious "immersion" that he goes on about multiboxing harming. Multiboxing and RP can be perfectly harmonious. In fact having a squadron of characters in a uniform can look pretty cool and multiboxing is a great tool for DMing too because you can be in many places at once.
I feel like the truth of the matter is that a lot of people on ED transferred to Alliance side with the WoD changes to PVP just like what happened all over. In comes multiboxer and suddenly there is danger again and they can't stand losing. It has nothing to do with "roleplay."
As someone on an actual RP server we deal with PVP tryhards disrupting actual RPers in public areas all the time and you don't see us creating a witch hunt to have PVPers phase while flagged in cities so they don't disrupt the RPers.
Server "crashes"? Correlation does not imply causation. Perhaps ED is just an unstable server? I've been on an old server before that just had constant stability issues. Perhaps these people are playing on crackerjack boxes. It's a bit rude that he might camp someplace like Stormshield, but I know PVP groups that get together sometimes and do the same thing. PVP happened on a (RP)-PVP server.
In reality, I think it'd be pretty easy to dispatch Prepared's team in the same way that premade vs premade Ashran groups fight.
Form a 40 man raid or 2 40 man raids.
Have everyone set focus on the target caller.
In vent/mumble/ts/etc.
Predator Frames WPVP clickable target frames.
All DPS assist off the caller, trying to gun down targets one by one.
CC, stuns, fearbombs, etc. There'll be lag. Just keep pressing your assist button and shooting.
If you can't target the target caller's target? Move because phasing.
Healers spam AOE heals and cooldowns, even if they can't see and are lagging.
When the dust settles, one group will be victorious. And it'll probably be the coordinated group of multiple brains that has more mobility than a lone multiboxer.
It's no different than mass Ashran clashes.
Last edited by Zandrae : 01-01-2016 at 03:34 PM
- gather 40 people ..
- get 40 people to set same focus
- get 40 people in voice chat
- get 40 people do assist (focus) the same dude
Sounds to me like it would be easier to convince (insert name of random terrorist regime) to drop a nuke on prepared his place.
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We do this every day in EVE like its nothing, but its an extreme challenge for wow players. All you need to do is find some people with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.
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The problem with WoW is how solo play is pushed.
1-Max level is an exercise in futility towards grouping. So everyone hits max level thinking ( and rightfully so ) that they can just go solo and everything will be fine.
The design should be about consistency. If max level requires grouping to get anything done, 1-max should be pretty close to the same. Maybe 1-50 is solo and 50-99 is a gradual grouping process. Anything like that would be preferable to what we have now.
yea, thank LFD and LFR for that.
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